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Old 11-30-2005, 03:05 PM
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Default schlep turn play?

Tbl was encouraging this kind of thing early; otherwise very few hands for reads except that sb was tightish/agg in that brief time.

I 3-bet turn wanting my dough in while I was golden and making the turn raiser pay big (I suspected Ad or maybe x9/oesd).

First thing is, is this a spot with my hand I want to be 3-betting when it looks like things are heating up? I have a hard time calling two in spots like these w/o wanting to 3-bet;

Second, w/no 4-fl is river raise or call turn capper?

I honestly *thought* he flopped trips when he capped turn thinking he might be doing what I was doing, making it expensive for the Ad/Jd/x9 next to me to play; but w/the possibilities, started doubting A9 would cap 4-handed 3-fl board once he led river. At the same time tho' see all kinds of weird sb hands after action like this...

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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls, Button calls $0.83 (All-In).

River: (17.91 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero </font> ??
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:11 PM
bobman0330 bobman0330 is offline
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

turn 3-bet i like, river raise I do not like. The Qd was a scary scary card for just a 9, and he seems totally unfazed.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

Could villain have K9/Q9 and be playing it super aggressive? Or would he play a 9x (no boat) this way on a 3 flush board?
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

I think this is a good spot to just call.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

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I think this is a good spot to just call.

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Old 11-30-2005, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

I call the river. We have the 4th best flush and there are possible boats, quad 9s, and a straight flush out there. Maybe I'm seeing monsters but I got a bad feeling...
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

A river call is good here. SB doesn't seem to be concerned by your turn 3bet, and there are a good bit of reasonable hands that beat you. If SB is indeed a tag, a higher flush is a real possibility, as is Q9 and K9.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

Is this standard pre-flop limp for others? I could see limping this in the CO or Button with passive blinds, but MP seems a bit early and I think we get raised from behind too often.
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Old 11-30-2005, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

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Is this standard pre-flop limp for others? I could see limping

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I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea; this hand here isn't even on my radar; but:

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Tbl was encouraging this kind of thing early

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Watching lots of limps do you think this hand is just good enough to take a peek once in awhile? Maybe it's too marginal even for that?

Mike
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Old 11-30-2005, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: schlep turn play?

gday mike,

I think pf is fine if the table is loose/passive. I play this all the time from MP with a limper, assuming there isnt any real aggression behind me.

I think the river is an easy call. Hes telling you he has you beat by capping the turn, raising here commits you to putting 3bets in on the river almost always and im not comfortable with doing that.
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