Do you support Bush?

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Riddle me this Batman- if there was evidence that they were terrorists, why not go to a judge and get a warrent?

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How do you suppose a NOC/black ops agent could get a warrant from a federal judge to monitor a terrorist?

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As far as the "wire tapping" issue, I have seen and read that it was only numbers that:

a) Were contained in material seized from captured terrorists.

b) Were coming from or to known terrorists.


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Riddle me this Batman- if there was evidence that they were terrorists, why not go to a judge and get a warrent?

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Well Robin, for the same damned reason it is all over the news now. The more people that know about it, the more likely The New York Crimes and the rest of the liberal rags are going to print it. As of this morning, the attorneys that are representing the terrorists that have been caught are planning to use this as a defense. Why aren't you worried about Clinton when he spied on the people at "Ruby Ridge"?

For the record, it's "warrant", not warrent.

[PoBoy321]

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None of his neighbors in the region perceived him to be a threat.

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Then why did we still have the No-Fly Zone in effect or the sanctions in place?

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For the same reason we still have sanctions and restrictions on Cuba: because it was politically advantageous for him to be perceived as a threat.

[adios]

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"HE WAS AN UNACCEPTABLE THREAT TO NECCESSARY MIDDLE EAST STABILITY."

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None of his neighbors in the region perceived him to be a threat.

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Getting my ass kicked in Omaha/8 so I'm in a fowl mood [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. This is simply an unbeleivable response considering he waged war on Iran and Kuwait and if memory serves launched some scud missles in the direction of Saudi Arabia. God only knows how many Kurds and Shias he was responsible for murdering and you claim neighboring countries didn't perceive him as a threat?

Also it's incredible to me that so many posters on this forum value stability of autocratic, despotic, murderous dictators. For crying out loud North Korea is stable too does that make their government desirable or even legitimate? The Shah of Iran was stable for a long period of time. Hell the Soviet Union was stable for many, many years.

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Also it's incredible to me that so many posters on this forum value stability of autocratic, despotic, murderous dictators. For crying out loud North Korea is stable too does that make their government desirable or even legitimate? The Shah of Iran was stable for a long period of time. Hell the Soviet Union was stable for many, many years.


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Didn't you know, regimes run by autocratic, despotic, murderous dictators aren't evil, because its "much more complicated" than that?

Apparantly, the liberty and freedom of "other" people doesn't matter, so long as there is "peace" in the world.

[canis582]

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"HE WAS AN UNACCEPTABLE THREAT TO NECCESSARY MIDDLE EAST STABILITY."

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None of his neighbors in the region perceived him to be a threat.

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Getting my ass kicked in Omaha/8 so I'm in a fowl mood [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]. This is simply an unbeleivable response considering he waged war on Iran and Kuwait and if memory serves launched some scud missles in the direction of Saudi Arabia. God only knows how many Kurds and Shias he was responsible for murdering and you claim neighboring countries didn't perceive him as a threat?

Also it's incredible to me that so many posters on this forum value stability of autocratic, despotic, murderous dictators. For crying out loud North Korea is stable too does that make their government desirable or even legitimate? The Shah of Iran was stable for a long period of time. Hell the Soviet Union was stable for many, many years.

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#1: move down in stakes, try play money

#2: there is volumious evidence to suggest that the middle east is LESS stable without Saddam than it is with it. Why wouldn't our allies, Turkey and Bahrain, let us use their counties as staging grounds if Saddam was such a threat to them?

#3: The US government loves brutal dictators, as long as they are friendly to us.

[bocablkr]

Do I support Bush on:

The war on terror - mostly yes
Foreign policy - mostly no
Protecting the environment - NO
Global warming - NO
Energy Policy - NO
Privatization of Social Security - NO
Abortion - NO
Health Care - NO
Immigration - NO
Tax Cuts for the rich - NO
Bringing religion back into Government - NO
Teaching ID in Science class - NO

[sweetjazz]

I support Bush, inasmuch as I hope that his policies work out well for Americans. I generally disagree with most of his policies, and I am disappointed in his unwillingness or inability to raise the level of discourse in this country. (I am disappointed in most other public officials for this same trait.)

EDIT: Regarding domestic spying, I do not approve of the disregard shown for the courts based on the information I know now. I am open to more information becoming available during the course of the hearings that occur and changing my opinion, but I believe that the claimed benefit of disregarding the established procedures is much smaller than the possibility for abuse by either this administration or a future one.

[James Boston]

I don't like George Bush, but do you realize that mentalities like yours aren't helping the cause when it comes to pointing out his serious flaws?

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Global warming - NO


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What does that even mean? George Bush, to my knowledge, hasn't come out in support of global warming.

I could go on, but I don't care to. These cookie-cutter liberal jabs at Bush, IMO, do more to distract from the real reasons he's a bad president than anything else.

[Cumulonimbus]

chessforlife - How many times have you clicked "Yes"?