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Old 09-24-2005, 04:06 AM
dibbs dibbs is offline
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Default I think I butchered this one stud8.

Seat 4 will throttle decent to roughish lows with reckless abandon, I'm pretty sure he would have raised a really smooth 3 card low on third as he was pushing them pretty hard, his raise on 4th confused me, maybe something like 567?

He has obviously made his low on 5th, continue on with AA and depleted low outs?

I hate 6th because I'm gutless in giving up on big pots. It was quite obvious after the raise it was gonna be jammed too, here is obviously the place to let it go, right?


7 Card Stud High-Low ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (3.20 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (4.60 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls

6th Street - (10.60 BB)

Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___raises
Seat 8: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___calls
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Old 09-24-2005, 05:37 AM
Spladle Master Spladle Master is offline
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Default Re: I think I butchered this one stud8.

Grow testicles. Jam third. Jam fourth. Jam fifth.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: I think I butchered this one stud8.

I would complete third some of the time.

On 4th, I think you definitely want to 3-bet. Deuces and four's are live, and if you can hit one of them, Seat 4 is going to be in a world of hurt.

I think you have enough equity to 3-bet 5th but I'm going to try a sim in a second here.

6th is ugly because you may be hopelessly behind for high. Looks like Seat 8 hit his straight and Seat 4 may have tripped up.

On Fifth: (I hope the cards I gave Seat 4 and Seat 8 are reasonable).

[ QUOTE ]

Too many samples required, using 500,000 sample simulation.
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1238987
pokenum -mc 500000 -7s8 5s 3s 6s ac ah - 6c 8d 2s 4c 5d - ts 7s 6h 8s th / 8c tc 6d kc 3c qs
7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 500000 sampled outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6s 5s 3s Ac Ah 86951 192549 306695 756 234644 39934 82 0.428
2s 6c 4c 8d 5d 64566 111777 386373 1850 265274 234644 82 0.378
Ts 8s 7s Th 6h 0 193824 305082 1094 0 61386 0 0.194


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On Sixth:

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Result
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1239005
pokenum -7s8 5s 3s 6s ac ah qc - 6c 8d 2s 4c 5d 2c - ts 7s 6h 8s th 9d / 8c tc 6d kc 3c qs
7-card Stud Hi/Low 8-or-better: 19656 enumerated outcomes
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6s 5s 3s Ac Qc Ah 0 0 19656 0 5668 650 0 0.144
2s 6c 4c 2c 8d 5d 0 0 19656 0 13988 5668 0 0.356
Ts 8s 7s 9d Th 6h 0 19656 0 0 0 0 0 0.500


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Old 09-24-2005, 01:29 PM
DeadMoneyOC DeadMoneyOC is offline
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Default Re: I think I butchered this one stud8.

I might play a little more aggresive on the earlier streets. Depends on how I am running. I would have a really hard time folding 6th here. I think everyone is going to respond that you should see the river, but I am not so sure. The pot isnt really that big and it seems like you are certainly playing for half of it. Twodimes.net in the answer. Im too lazy though.

I would play faster on 3rd, 4th, and 5th though. It sure doesnt look like that clown in seat 8 is going anywhere but if you could somehow knock him out that would be very good.

Edit: just looked at the other posts. Read greenages post. I think we can find a fold when its two bets to us on 6th. I dont like it, but I think its correct because the pot is pretty small. tough spot though. good post

Edit 2: WHOA, im still drunk from last night. Pot isnt nearly as small as I thought i was. On second thought this is very close. I dont like the way the action ensued where yo uhave to call two cold, and I dont like that there are a lot of dead cards but I think you might need to call here.
Its very close an dI really have no clue. GL in finding your answer!
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: I think I butchered this one stud8.

Sounds good, thanks for the thoughts gents.
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Old 09-27-2005, 12:02 AM
Andy B Andy B is offline
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Default Re: I think I butchered this one stud8.

I make it a full bet on third about every time. I would absolutely three-bet on fourth. I would at least consider three-betting on fifth. On sixth, I think the pot is big enough for you to tough it out. If you had played it more aggressively, it would definitely be too big for you to fold. What happened on the river?
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