Bubble Aggression Hand Party $30+3

[UMTerp]

The dumbest part is that he (the opponent) only raised halfway preflop. If he intended to call if reraised, he should've just pushed them in in the first place. There's no way Hero gets involved then.

[eastbay]

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I think there is nothing wrong with this reraise and you should make it every time. Krab is a dope for getting involved here with 77 and he got exactly what he deserved when you flushed on him.

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Whether or not Krab's play is good is irrelevant. By what analysis is the re-raise a good play?

eastbay

[ThorGoT]

I think the "play for first, settle for fourth" attitude is overrated or, to be more charitable, inapplicable here. Crab has, essentially, a guarantee of making the money, since fourth place has only 10 chips. Once he makes the money, he can play for first without risk. That being said, when he's repopped by the big stack he reasonably should anticipate facing two overcards, with a possibility of a monster and a possibility of a complete resteal. He's looking at, say, a net 45% chance of busting out and winning nothing. Note also that big stack would always make this move with a monster; would ordinarily make this move with a good hand (e.g. two overcards); and would only sometimes make it as a complete resteal. Give it up, wait for the money, take your chances then. The converse of that is that the resteal, even with nothing, is a good play, since crab can't know you have nothing. Unless crab has a monster hand, he should give it up. So big stack can resteal with impunity. I'd say the odds that crab has a monster and is trying to induce an overbet by the big stack are a lot lower than that he made a foolish decision. Now, you might think that if he was foolish once, he might be foolish again (and call), but being put all in has a tendency to concentrate the mind. I like the resteal here, and if I were crab I'd be kicking myself for both my decisions.

[ColdestCall]

Thor posted before I had a chance to respond and laid out the justification for the reraise very well. When Krab doesnt push, he leaves himself the opportunity to lay down his hand. Perhaps he would do this to induce a reraise, but I dont think that's likely. Anyway, Hero's reraise gives him that opportunity (to lay down his hand). In this situation I think there is an excellent chance that he will lay it down given the fact that the short stack only has 10 chips. Krab still has 630 after a laydown, and (provided it is early in the round) now has about a 94% chance of folding his way into 3rd, and a decent chance of folding his way into second seeing as how Jeppow has T 355 after posting this hand. Maybe Krab didnt think about this before he raised 900, but it is definitely going to cross his mind when he is facing possible elimination versus definite ITM, and most players would fold here after scolding themselves for having raised to begin with.

[Vanquish]

Sorry, I've got to agree with eastbay, who said:

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I don't think he folds enough to make it profitable.

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He doesn't. You have to have a fantastic read that this was just a bluff or flat out steal in order to think he's laying it down here. He's obviously not a solid player, or he would have gone all-in to begin with. Looking at this situation with no read, I'm going to assume every time that Krab is willing to play this hand for all his chips. I would also assume that Krab has a good hand or he wouldn't make this kind of risky play when shortstack is inevitably going to be knocked out in the next hand or two. I still say it's not a good play to go for a reraise with crap against someone who just put 60% of his chips in on the bubble (without a good read).

[rachelwxm]

I agree with eastbay here. mathematically speaking, he still should fold even he put 2/3 of his chips in the pot. He need to have better than 2.9:1 to call. Had he known your hands 73o, it's a easy call though. Against any 2, fold is a clear choice.

But the fact that he did not push at first place should make you think he is not kind of person who would lay that down.

[Jman28]

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I agree with eastbay here. mathematically speaking, he still should fold even he put 2/3 of his chips in the pot. He need to have better than 2.9:1 to call. Had he known your hands 73o, it's a easy call though. Against any 2, fold is a clear choice.

But the fact that he did not push at first place should make you think he is not kind of person who would lay that down.

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I think this post explains it best. I didn't put enough thought into the move. I assumed that he'd be more scared of busting out than he was after that raise and I assumed I'd have a little more caught equity than I did.

Thanks for all the responses.

-Jman28

[tallstack]

I agree with the general concensus for this hand. While you spotted an opportunity to play the bully, you may want to consider that there are lower risk bullying tactics in this situation, IMO.

This looks like an excellent opportunity to keep the bubble alive and hopefully dwindle krab down in the process. He will have to post the BB next hand with the tiny stack UTG. Since you effectively have first action on both the next two hands (the tiny stack really doesn't change anything if he calls or not). I would raise all-in here every time. If UTG calls in front of you, then hopefully he beats your hand to quadruple up. On the next hand I would go all-in again. Your opponents will be very unlikely to call all-ins in the next two hands with the tiny stack around. I think open-raising virtually every opportunity while it is 4-handed has less risk IMO.

Dave S

[Crosby]

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The dumbest part is that he (the opponent) only raised halfway preflop. If he intended to call if reraised, he should've just pushed them in in the first place. There's no way Hero gets involved then.

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If you think about it, this is a pretty ridiculous statement. You're saying that he made a mistake by not just shoving (which I agree with), but you're attempting to illustrate it through the results of what happened here. If someone told you before the hand that if you raised 2/3 of your stack instead of all in with 77 that 74s would come over the top of you, you would make the smaller raise too right?