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Locust Valley Lockjaw (Thurston Howell of Gilligan's Island) 2 1.34%
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Russian 16 10.74%
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  #11  
Old 11-13-2005, 08:47 PM
skipperbob skipperbob is offline
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

I vote fold; but that assumes that bnaz's T945 is before posting BB
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Old 11-13-2005, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

I guess it's better to explain a bit.

If pusher doesn't suck, he's pushing a wide range here. After all, neither of you want to bust 4th and here's a chance to get some chips without facing big stack.

If you fold and little stack folds: fack, I just wasted my AQ.

If you fold and little stack calls, well, if he doubles that sucks arse and I just as soon take my shot at doubling AQ against pushers wide range as have shorties random hand go against that wide range. Plus, this way you get a shot at first or second.

If pusher sucks enough, it's different.
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:16 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

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I guess it's better to explain a bit.

If pusher doesn't suck, he's pushing a wide range here. After all, neither of you want to bust 4th and here's a chance to get some chips without facing big stack.

If you fold and little stack folds: fack, I just wasted my AQ.

If you fold and little stack calls, well, if he doubles that sucks arse and I just as soon take my shot at doubling AQ against pushers wide range as have shorties random hand go against that wide range. Plus, this way you get a shot at first or second.

If pusher sucks enough, it's different.

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Good pusher's not pushing loosely here because BB calls very frequently here.

This may make this a better call though, as he's probably pushing any ace and we dominate most of those.
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Old 11-13-2005, 09:19 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

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I guess it's better to explain a bit.

If pusher doesn't suck, he's pushing a wide range here. After all, neither of you want to bust 4th and here's a chance to get some chips without facing big stack.

If you fold and little stack folds: fack, I just wasted my AQ.

If you fold and little stack calls, well, if he doubles that sucks arse and I just as soon take my shot at doubling AQ against pushers wide range as have shorties random hand go against that wide range. Plus, this way you get a shot at first or second.

If pusher sucks enough, it's different.

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Good pusher's not pushing loosely here because BB calls very frequently here.

This may make this a better call though, as he's probably pushing any ace and we dominate most of those.

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Ok, let's call it semantics. "Any ace" is starting to get pretty loose.
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

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I guess it's better to explain a bit.

If pusher doesn't suck, he's pushing a wide range here. After all, neither of you want to bust 4th and here's a chance to get some chips without facing big stack.

If you fold and little stack folds: fack, I just wasted my AQ.

If you fold and little stack calls, well, if he doubles that sucks arse and I just as soon take my shot at doubling AQ against pushers wide range as have shorties random hand go against that wide range. Plus, this way you get a shot at first or second.

If pusher sucks enough, it's different.

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Good pusher's not pushing loosely here because BB calls very frequently here.

This may make this a better call though, as he's probably pushing any ace and we dominate most of those.

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Ok, let's call it semantics. "Any ace" is starting to get pretty loose.

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i dont consider any ace to be a loose push at all. it should be automatic to anyone. a good player will not be shoving a huge amount of hands from this button. if bb is good at ALL, he is calling with almost any 2. holla
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Old 11-13-2005, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

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I guess it's better to explain a bit.

If pusher doesn't suck, he's pushing a wide range here. After all, neither of you want to bust 4th and here's a chance to get some chips without facing big stack.

If you fold and little stack folds: fack, I just wasted my AQ.

If you fold and little stack calls, well, if he doubles that sucks arse and I just as soon take my shot at doubling AQ against pushers wide range as have shorties random hand go against that wide range. Plus, this way you get a shot at first or second.

If pusher sucks enough, it's different.

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Good pusher's not pushing loosely here because BB calls very frequently here.

This may make this a better call though, as he's probably pushing any ace and we dominate most of those.

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Ok, let's call it semantics. "Any ace" is starting to get pretty loose.

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i dont consider any ace to be a loose push at all. it should be automatic to anyone. a good player will not be shoving a huge amount of hands from this button. if bb is good at ALL, he is calling with almost any 2. holla

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This seems like it could be a very profitable situation and you may even be free-rolling. If bb calls, he's behind and you may be receiving lots of dead chips to bb's 3:1 call. Btn likely has ace-rag or small-mid pocket pair?
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:01 PM
raptor517 raptor517 is offline
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

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I guess it's better to explain a bit.

If pusher doesn't suck, he's pushing a wide range here. After all, neither of you want to bust 4th and here's a chance to get some chips without facing big stack.

If you fold and little stack folds: fack, I just wasted my AQ.

If you fold and little stack calls, well, if he doubles that sucks arse and I just as soon take my shot at doubling AQ against pushers wide range as have shorties random hand go against that wide range. Plus, this way you get a shot at first or second.

If pusher sucks enough, it's different.

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Good pusher's not pushing loosely here because BB calls very frequently here.

This may make this a better call though, as he's probably pushing any ace and we dominate most of those.

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Ok, let's call it semantics. "Any ace" is starting to get pretty loose.

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i dont consider any ace to be a loose push at all. it should be automatic to anyone. a good player will not be shoving a huge amount of hands from this button. if bb is good at ALL, he is calling with almost any 2. holla

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This seems like it could be a very profitable situation and you may even be free-rolling. If bb calls, he's behind and you may be receiving lots of dead chips to bb's 3:1 call. Btn likely has ace-rag or small-mid pocket pair?

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yer joking right? what do you think the short stack bb is calling with here? MAYBE like JJ+ and AK if hes good. hes not just 'coming along for the ride' with all sorts of crap hands. hes gonna hope you bust so he can sneak. period. holla
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

the reason i hate a fold here is if the BB calls and doubles up, you're gonna be in a tough spot to make it ITM. based on your stack size i think you still have fight, and taking on a bigger stack with AQo is good enough IMO to do it with.
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Old 11-13-2005, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: (109) Bubble Fun with Raptor

It's pretty close. I've played against BB and wouldn't count on him to either fold a huge range if you call or to call with a huge range if you fold.
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Old 11-14-2005, 01:50 AM
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Yes easy call but what was the outcome?
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