hand reading exercise

eviljeff · #1 08-24-2005, 02:15 PM

villain is 26/7.7/1.8 (so semi-loose and aggressive) and can be tricky

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Preflop:
4 folds, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, 2 folds, eviljeff 3-bets, MP1 caps, MP2 folds.

Flop: (8 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
eviljeff checks, MP1 bets, eviljeff calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
eviljeff checks, MP1 checks.

River: (4.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
eviljeff bets, MP1 folds.

I suggest you try to answer the following questions before looking at other responses:

1) what is a reasonable range of hands for me after I 3bet pf?
2) what is a reasonable range of hands for villain after he caps pf?
3) what is my range of hands after I c/c the flop?
hints in white: what is it appropriate to slowplay here? am I wa/wb? what am I getting odds to chase with?
4) what is my final range of hands?
5) what is villain's final hand? (you should be able to narrow it to one, possibly two hands)

MrWookie47 · #2 08-24-2005, 02:22 PM

It's not too late to edit your post and, you know, include all the action. Also, previewing your posts is a good thing.

Henke · #3 08-24-2005, 02:23 PM

nm

eviljeff · #4 08-24-2005, 02:32 PM

all better now.

note: this post has been previewed and approved by eviljeff

jrz1972 · #5 08-24-2005, 02:33 PM

1. Probably AKs, AKo, AA-TT. Maybe AQs or 99.

2. AKs, AA-JJ. Maybe AKo.

3. AQ or QQ. Maybe AK.

4. AK-AQ.

5. QQ or JJ.

numeri · #6 08-24-2005, 02:36 PM

1) what is a reasonable range of hands for me after I 3bet pf?

AA-99, AKs/o, AQs, AJs, KQs

2) what is a reasonable range of hands for villain after he caps pf?

AA-JJ, AKs

3) what is my range of hands after I c/c the flop?

AA, KK, AK, AQ

4) what is my final range of hands?

AQ. Anything else, I think you played it poorly. (You should have bet the turn with anything stronger.

5) what is villain's final hand? (you should be able to narrow it to one, possibly two hands)

QQ or JJ

Henke · #7 08-24-2005, 02:41 PM

Hmm, there's still something wrong with the posititions pf, but I'll give it a try... Some assumptions: MP1 is MP1, ie 4 ppl did not fold, only 3 (UTG, UTG+1, UTG+2). You are BB. This is ten-handed (only 9 ppls action showing pf). If that's true, then MP1's raise is probably not a pure steal, so he still needs some kind of hand to raise. That means your BB reraise would be for value/control, and would require at least AQ. Then I would say a reasonable capping-range for him is AK, JJ+.

When you cc the flop, I would drop the lower pairs (99-JJ), but you could probably still have QQ+ and AQ+ and do a wa/wb. Or, you could be slowplaying a monster, so I would say QQ+ AQ+.

Your final range of hands is about the same, we can probably discount QQ though, because with that hand you're not beating any hands he call with, but you might induce a bluff by c/c. That would put you on AQ+, KK+ (QQ), with AQ being most likely.

He probably has JJ, perhaps QQ..

#8 08-24-2005, 02:52 PM

1. Villain PF: AA-JJ. Suited AK-AJ. Suited KQ-KJ.

2. Hero PF: AA-TT. Suited AK-AJ, KQ. Offsuit AK.

3. Hero Flop: AA-KK. Suited AK-AJ, KQ.

4. Hero River: Suited AQ-AJ.

5. Villain River: Suited KQ-KJ.

deception5 · #9 08-24-2005, 02:54 PM

Definitely looks like AQ vs JJ.

#10 08-24-2005, 02:57 PM

It was a pain to count and see what position you were in. According to PF you're CO, but according to subsequent lines you're first to act. How does that work?

1.)Reads on yourself? I don't know how you play, so I'm going to keep it safe and say TT+, AT+, KJ+, QJ+, JT+.
2.)MP1's reads and PF cap say he's holding 77-AA, A8+, KT+, QT+ or JT+.
3.)You're holding middle pair or QQ. Again, narrowed down to KTd+, QQ. You're also getting implied odds for the flush, but not the ISD--QJd, QJs are also possibilities.
4.)Either QJs, QJd or KJs.
5.)Based on villain's reads, A7+. I wish I could get closer to a good guess, but I can't without cheating. I'll probably edit the right answer in anyway. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

EDIT: OK, I'm reading everyone's posts and I see why AQ is a logical hand. Wow, I was wayyy off.

EDIT 2: Upon further inspection your PF line makes no damn sense at all. Four folds to MP1? You're apparently OTB but you act first?

I know I don't know much yet about poker, but this PF line threw me WAY off. Position factors into my reads a LOT.