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Old 06-17-2005, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: AK, meh..

Why do you fold with no bet to you on the river? Its also a bad call on the turn.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:23 PM
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Why do you fold with no bet to you on the river? Its also a bad call on the turn.

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Why? He's getting 13.5-1 closing the action with probably about 3 outs. Considering his implied odds I think the call is fine.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:26 PM
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What implied odds? Lots of times we hit an overcard to pair on the river, it won't be good. Implied odds means we are winning if we hit and not losing anything when we don't. Problem is, we're often going to lose when an A or K falls.

For example, say we hit an A and decide to raise, are we folding to a 3-bet? What about when opponent folds to our raise? In these situations I tend to just call when I hit my overcard as the opponent will often check a scare card that might beat him, but bet when it doesn't hurt him. Likewise, I don't want to get 3-bet, and he may well fold to my raise if I have him beat anyway.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:33 PM
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If I called and hit an Ace or a King on the river I'd bet out, the implied odds would be the ineviatable calls I'd recieve from any worse hands.

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Problem is, we're often going to lose when an A or K falls.

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I really disagree, I think an Ace or a King is very likely to give Hero the best hand.
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Old 06-17-2005, 05:34 PM
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You give him 3 outs. Doesn't that mean that he's only good half the time he hits?
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