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Old 12-28-2005, 03:03 PM
elwoodblues elwoodblues is offline
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Default Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue

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You realize of course that Clinton DID these things right?

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Bill Clinton was a major proponent of and signed the USA PATRIOT act?

Bill Clinton ordered the detainment of a US Citizen, characterized him as an "enemy combatant," and intended to hold him for an unspecified period of time without access to any judicial oversight to determine if he was, in fact, an "enemy combatant"?

I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Clinton acted the same way Bush did following 9/11 --- doing the exact same things --- you would have hoardes of Conservatives (who now follow Bush because they trust him) up in arms about bad Big Government and vice versa.

Clinton might have done some similar things, but they were not widely known about because the country wasn't focussing on those things. 9/11 changed that.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:17 PM
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Clinton murdered American citizens. Waco and Ruby Ridge.

Clinton launched attacks on numerous nations, among them, ironically, Iraq. The reason, because of Saddams WMDs, that Clinton apparently lied about, therefore people died.

Clinton abducted a child and sent him back to a communist country instead of having him stay here to be raised by loving family. The really ironic part is that the child survived the attempt to flee Cuba, but the mother did not, the mother is surely smiling down from heaven knowing that Clinton sent her child BACK to the place she gave her life to leave.

The problem is that Bush has done NOTHING to infringe on American freedoms that even BEGINS to approach the evil and horrific things that Clinton did. However, Clinton gets a pass, because hes a liberal, and therefore infallible or some such nonsense.

No, Clinton did a great many damaging things, including the treason of selling classified technology to the Chinese, but, at least he didn't make some dude sit in a jail cell for a while before being charged.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue

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However, Clinton gets a pass, because hes a liberal, and therefore infallible or some such nonsense.


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How is he getting a free pass? You just cited 10 ways in which you think he egregiously infringed on civil liberties.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:23 PM
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Default Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue

Who am I? And that's the point.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: The disgraceful right-wing distortion on the domestic spying issue

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Who am I? And that's the point.

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Clearly you're a conservative martyr for whom the liberal controlled society-at-large, by way of its minions in the media, have trampled and subjugated at every twist and turn, making sure right-wingers are forever second-class citizens.

Seriously, though -- where exactly did you hear about all these Clinton violations, anyway?
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:30 PM
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Saw them on the news. However, the media covered them in a far less aggressive manner than they do ANYTHING that GWB does.
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Old 12-28-2005, 03:43 PM
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Saw them on the news.

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So by 'free-pass', you mean the media both reported these things (as you say you heard them on the news) -- but also stifled the reporting of them (as you say he got a 'free-pass' on them)?

There goes that diabolical media again -- simultaneously reporting news while doing their best to silence it.
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