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Old 10-19-2005, 01:28 PM
samjjones samjjones is offline
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Default Re: Don\'t You [censored] Do It Georgey Boy!!

Probably comparing ATL team ERA to the NL league average over a period of years. Mazzone is a great pitching coach. One only need to see guys like Jaret Wright, Denny Neagle, Kevin Millwood's numbers on ATL and elsewhere to see this.
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Old 10-19-2005, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t You [censored] Do It Georgey Boy!!

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Kevin Millwood's numbers on ATL and elsewhere to see this

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Uh? He lead the AL in ERA this year.

But I agree Mazzone is awesome. COaches don't get into the HoF, players and managers do. But I honestly think when his time comes he should be considered.
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Old 10-19-2005, 02:48 PM
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But I agree Mazzone is awesome. COaches don't get into the HoF, players and managers do. But I honestly think when his time comes he should be considered.

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his opinion of how a move will affect his HOF chances may just be the thing to make his decision for him.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t You [censored] Do It Georgey Boy!!

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"Leo Mazzone is worth .55 to .85 runs per game."

So why, then, would the Braves have given permission to the Yankees and Orioles to talk to him?

How do you come up with .55 to.85 rpg?

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JC Bradbury compared pitchers pre-/post-mazzone and during the mazzone years and found that, on average, he lowered their ERAs by about half a run.

Of course, it's really hard to get a good read on it with other things affecting ERA (park, defense) but nobody else showed any significant result.
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Old 10-19-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t You [censored] Do It Georgey Boy!!

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"Leo Mazzone is worth .55 to .85 runs per game."

So why, then, would the Braves have given permission to the Yankees and Orioles to talk to him?

How do you come up with .55 to.85 rpg?

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JC Bradbury compared pitchers pre-/post-mazzone and during the mazzone years and found that, on average, he lowered their ERAs by about half a run.

Of course, it's really hard to get a good read on it with other things affecting ERA (park, defense) but nobody else showed any significant result.

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If this is anywhere near accurate, Leo Mazzone is worth as much as A-Rod, perhaps more. And this guy has been doing it for 10 years.
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t You [censored] Do It Georgey Boy!!

Yes, COME to los jankees! we will pay you lots of money! You'll DEFINATELY have a better shot at making it deep in the playoffs. And just think, if you fix the Yanks pitching staff, you'll be the best ever. No questions asked. Do you really want to stay in atlanta with the 100 degree 100% humidity days in the summer? Do you really want to sit in the worst traffic in the world every day? Do you want more hot bitches than Jeter? Come, my son. Come.
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Old 10-17-2005, 08:56 PM
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As a Sox fan, I have to say this is absolutely the last thing I want to see happen. I'd rather lose Manny in a sign and trade for Kevin Brown.

NT
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Old 10-19-2005, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: Don\'t You [censored] Do It Georgey Boy!!

dammit-dammit-dammit. mazzone calls off talks and girardi leaves for the marlins. all on the same day
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