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#1
12-26-2005, 09:56 AM
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Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?
I was called a donkey for winning this hand:
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter Hero (t2050) MP2 (t2745) MP3 (t1360) CO (t1245) Button (t2940) SB (t1200) BB (t1520) UTG (t1300) UTG+1 (t3285) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t50. Flop: (t400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks. Turn: (t400) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls t100, SB folds. River: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, BB calls t150. Final Pot: t900 Results below: BB has Ts Jc (one pair, jacks). Hero has 8h Th (flush, jack high). Outcome: Hero wins t900. I never once thought that I was not getting a good price on any street with this hand. It was a minraise and I felt that several people would see the flop because of this, a fine situation for a suited one-gapper. I flopped middle pair and got to see the free turn which gave me an inside straght draw and a flush draw. That seemed like a ton of outs (and it was even though the Ten wasn't an out after all) and I only had to call t100 into a t500 pot to see the river. I wanted to say something when villain bitched but decided to let him seethe. 
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#2
12-26-2005, 10:15 AM
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Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?
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I was called a donkey for winning this hand: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter Hero (t2050) MP2 (t2745) MP3 (t1360) CO (t1245) Button (t2940) SB (t1200) BB (t1520) UTG (t1300) UTG+1 (t3285) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t100, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t75, BB calls t50. Flop: (t400) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks. Turn: (t400) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t100</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls t100, SB folds. River: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, BB calls t150. Final Pot: t900 Results below: BB has Ts Jc (one pair, jacks). Hero has 8h Th (flush, jack high). Outcome: Hero wins t900. I never once thought that I was not getting a good price on any street with this hand. It was a minraise and I felt that several people would see the flop because of this, a fine situation for a suited one-gapper. I flopped middle pair and got to see the free turn which gave me an inside straght draw and a flush draw. That seemed like a ton of outs (and it was even though the Ten wasn't an out after all) and I only had to call t100 into a t500 pot to see the river. I wanted to say something when villain bitched but decided to let him seethe. [/ QUOTE ] You probably should start a new thread, but I will reply. I would not call the miniraise, but it is not terrible and depends on your style and the situation. You wound up having position, but you called from middle position. You might have had to fold this to a preflop raise. Generally, I would save my chips. You might bet 2nd pair and the backdoor with position on the flop, but checking is OK too. When you make the flush, I would bet more than 1/4 pot. If you bet 3/4 pot and get called 40% of the time, you are doing much better. I wouldn't call you a donkey, but I am not real impressed by how you played this.
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#4
12-26-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?
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12-29-2005, 06:23 PM
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Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?
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This is where everyone went nuts. The button started calling me a donkey [/ QUOTE ] A bet, 2 calls, a check-raise, and the button thinks it's a non donkey play to then commit all his chips with top pair on a paired board. And calls the guy with trips a donkey. Classic. [ QUOTE ] and some of the others joined in with such things as: how could I call a raise with a trash hand, what a donk play [/ QUOTE ] Sounds like a good table.
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#9
12-29-2005, 06:38 PM
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Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?
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Standard. Your table was full of morons apparently. [/ QUOTE ] I call a suited broadway from the BB for 1 bet like 99.999% of the time. It is SO EASY to let go of if you miss . . . BTW - this is why you have "chat mute" on most sites.
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#10
12-29-2005, 06:41 PM
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Re: First time ever called a donkey - Could it be true?
Push all-in pre-flop. You'll take it down vast majority of the time.
Actual hand: looks good. Don't ever worry what anyone has to say right after you unstack them. It's a waste of time and mental resources. Kirk
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