AA on the button

[aexchange]

Party Poker $1/$2 NL (6 Max)

Hero: ~ $470
Villan: ~ $600

We have both built our stacks up against the weaker players on the table.. Villan has made quite a bit of money against donkey's and seems to be a reasonable player. The table has been full of donkey's lately and we've both been running over them building up our respective stacks.

Hero is dealt AA on the button.
Villan is in the SB.

Two limpers. Hero raises to $8. Villan reraises to $24. I've seen him do this with a narrow range of hands (AA/KK/QQ/AK/maybe JJ). Limpers fold. Hero calls.

Flop: K 7 4 rainbow.

Villan leads out for $40. Hero raises to $140. Villan goes all-in. Hero?

Call. If he made trips with Kings, it's his good fortune. Anything less than that you should write down and remember for next time.

If he was playing the narrow hands that you think he was, the only options are he's A) trying to push you off if he thinks you just hit top pair with kings B) still thinking he can bluff you out C) was trying to bluff/semi-bluff you out but hit a miraculous flop (two pair or bottom set) D) just made trips with his kings.

[amoeba]

I call.

but really you should reraise preflop to 150.

[elus2]

6 combinations of AK and 1 combination of AA versus 3 combinations of KK makes this a call barring any reads you have. i think you can lower the frequency of KK because the board is drawless and it seems a very odd way to play a set. i think it's difficult to put you on a hand that beats him here with the preflop action.

[kongo_totte]

Fold. You say villian is decent. I don't see a decent player doing this without KK. It could be AA for a split, but I'm not investing 200BB+ to find out. Could he put you on anything but AA/KK?

Oh, and 3-bet pre-flop.

EDIT: It's weird though, him pushing there with the nuts on that board. I'd expect most players to slow down here. Still, I think a fold pretty safe.

[amoeba]

because hero did not 3 bet preflop. Villain can put hero on wide variety of hands.

I'm not sure if 77 and 44 are in that range though.

I think its close but I just can't imagine villain putting us on AA.

This deep you really should 3 bet preflop as villain's reraising range is really not that narrow. what do you do if a J or Q flops?

if you are going to trap with AA, then trap, don't do this I let you see a free flop then make my move.

if you aren't going to 3 bet preflop, then you should call the flop.

[kongo_totte]

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because hero did not 3 bet preflop. Villain can put hero on wide variety of hands.

I'm not sure if 77 and 44 are in that range though.

I think its close but I just can't imagine villain putting us on AA.

This deep you really should 3 bet preflop as villain's reraising range is really not that narrow. what do you do if a J or Q flops?

if you are going to trap with AA, then trap, don't do this I let you see a free flop then make my move.

if you aren't going to 3 bet preflop, then you should call the flop.

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Yes, but he can't really put hero on anything less than A K, and what beats A K beats A A (disregarding A A).

Would villian try to push you off a split w/ A K?

[amoeba]

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because hero did not 3 bet preflop. Villain can put hero on wide variety of hands.

I'm not sure if 77 and 44 are in that range though.

I think its close but I just can't imagine villain putting us on AA.

This deep you really should 3 bet preflop as villain's reraising range is really not that narrow. what do you do if a J or Q flops?

if you are going to trap with AA, then trap, don't do this I let you see a free flop then make my move.

if you aren't going to 3 bet preflop, then you should call the flop.

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Yes, but he can't really put hero on anything less than A K, and what beats A K beats A A (disregarding A A).

Would villian try to push you off a split w/ A K?

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would villain try to push you off AK with JJ or QQ as well?

[swolfe]

i disagree people saying to 3-bet preflop...unless you're willing to pull a MOH. i might do that sometimes...

i might have just called his flop $40 since we're WA/WB. let AK keep betting...let QQ fire a second barrel instead of getting an easy fold to our flop raise.

as played, i think it's close, but i call...

[swolfe]

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if you aren't going to 3 bet preflop, then you should call the flop.

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this is right