Young Marine dies in Iraq - not just another casualty

[theweatherman]

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My memory must be failing me because I don't remember George Bush ever saying anything other than the need to disarm this dangerous rogue man.

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What's the name of that operation currently going on in Iraq...? My memory may be failing me, but I don't recall it's Operation Disarm Saddam...

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Whatever the current state of the war is now, the original plan was not sold as the US freeing Iraq. For good reason IMO, that being everyone in the US would of said [censored] you bush.

Misleading the public is probably the worst thing an elected offical can do. It is a disgrace to the office and our contstitution. Of course you could never prove that the public was intentionally mislead so all the citizens are left to do is die for a cause they would of never agreed to.

Welcome to the lower class, my name is GWB I'll be needing your son/brother/father's life in order to make me famous and my friends a lot of money. Hope you dont mind.

[BCPVP]

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Whatever the current state of the war is now, the original plan was not sold as the US freeing Iraq.

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Maybe. WMDs were a major reason why we went to war. But freedom for the Iraqis has always been part of the reason too. Towards the end of Bush's State of the Union address in 2003, he says this:

"The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons has already used them on whole villages, leaving thousands of his own citizens dead, blind or disfigured.

Iraqi refugees tell us how forced confessions are obtained: by torturing children while their parents are made to watch. International human rights groups have catalogued other methods used in the torture chambers of Iraq: electric shock, burning with hot irons, dripping acid on the skin, mutilation with electric drills, cutting out tongues, and rape.

If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning.

And tonight I have a message for the brave and oppressed people of Iraq: Your enemy is not surrounding your country, your enemy is ruling your country.

And the day he and his regime are removed from power will be the day of your liberation. "

Couple that with the fact that since we took over the country, we began rebuilding Iraq and it's clear that while WMDs were the main cause for the war, liberating the Iraqis was also integral part of the war. We felt it was so important that we named the military operation responsible after it.

[theweatherman]

No doubt it is an integral part. I just feel that if the war was presented to the people as it is being done now there is no way in hell we'd go.

Since there are no WMDs it turns out that the only reason we went to Iraq is from regime change/ making halliburton bundles of cash. Now that reports of botched intelligence andout right lies is comingto the surface it is even more suspect what the actual goals of the operation were/are.

I'm not sure when the name is released but I'm thinking its sometime when it is too late to do anything about the war anyways so the name is entirely political talk imo.

Operation Iraqi Freedom was coined by GWB about a week after the invasion begun

[BCPVP]

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No doubt it is an integral part. I just feel that if the war was presented to the people as it is being done now there is no way in hell we'd go.

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Solely for the reason of liberating Iraq? Probably not. That's why we're not in many countries right now that have horrible, oppressive leaders. The WMD aspect and the fact that Saddam has a grudge against the U.S. gives the U.S. an interest in toppling him. Liberation for the Iraqis is the cherry on top. We're stuck with just a little ice cream and a cherry, but that cherry was still part of the sunday.

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Since there are no WMDs it turns out that the only reason we went to Iraq is from regime change/ making halliburton bundles of cash.

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1) No, even though there were no WMDs doesn't mean they weren't one of the chief reasons for invading. It just happened to turn out wrong.
2) From what I've heard, Halliburton hasn't made all that much off of Iraq.

The Houston-based firm has been given reconstruction contracts worth almost $500m so far, according to a US congressman.