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Old 11-04-2004, 06:07 PM
ChristinaB ChristinaB is offline
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:27 PM
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Congratulations! You've topped woolygimp for stupidest post ever! You really believe that the rest of the world should get to dictate who runs our country? If that were the case you'd be walking behind me with your face covered, or living near starvation like they are. If you want to live like they do, go live there. It's that simple. But don't try to prevent me from living in a free country instead of a socialist/collectivist state or worse dictatorship.
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:34 PM
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NO my post is the stupidest?!
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:36 PM
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terrible post


I like how Alberta apparently supports Bush though.
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:36 PM
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Free country? LOL [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:39 PM
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Free country? LOL [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Being so close to Russia, have you gotten your impression of life in America from watching Soviet-era propaganda films by any chance?
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:48 PM
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Don't forget Uruguay. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-04-2004, 06:54 PM
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Being so close to Russia, have you gotten your impression of life in America from watching Soviet-era propaganda films by any chance?

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I hate communism more than anything else.
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:17 PM
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Finland, USA and Soviet Union

Tax-free gambling: Finland: yes, USA: no, Soviet Union: no

Death penalty: Finland no, USA: Yes, Soviet Union: Yes

Freedom to speach: Finland Yes, USA: 97% yes (-3% because of terrorist laws), Soviet Union: no

Conclusion: There is more freedom in Finland than in USA.
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Old 11-04-2004, 07:19 PM
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I actually do not think this is a bad post at all and I'll try to discuss this a bit in a way that will not incite too much flaming.

Whether they like it or not, America needs to realize that they are the world's great superpower right now. Actually, I don't know why I put it that way, because I know that they like it and they like to think of themselves as world leaders.

And they are. When you enjoy the kinds of economic and military power that US does, you will be a world leader of sorts and your foreign policy decisions will affect the world in profound ways. Does that mean the world should start being able to vote for the US president. Well, obviously not, but the average american should start considering what the world wants from them just a little more.

As it currently stands, I think many Americans would vote for any candidate the rest of the world does NOT want. They do not want to de dictated to by anyone and really do not see the world as any kind of unified whole.

Bush kept telling people that the rest of the world would not follow a leader into war if he said it was the wrong war in the wrong place,wrong time, etc... Well, like it or not, and strange as it seems, this was how the world actually felt about the war in iraq. They would have followed a leader who said 'this was a mistake, but I now call on you to help me make the world a better place. I need help cleaning up this mess'.

But america doesn't need help, so why should they care anyways I guess? Well that's your perogative I suppose. Just as it was Saddam Hussein's peragative to do whatever he wanted with his own country. Do I think it was right do get rid of Saddam. Well, not as it was done exactly, but sure. Why do I think it is right? because if one were to put together a map like this one showing Saddam support, it would have been equally one sided. Like it or not our world has become global and the average citizen needs to consider that more when they go to the polls.

Now don't try to tell me that Saddam is different becasue he supported terrorists or some other thing. The US trained terrorists like Osama bin Laden to do exactly what they do well against the Soviet Union. You guys support terrorists too (even today) and I do not blame you. Does that mean the Soviets had a right to make a pre-emptive attack on the US or enforce crippling sanctions for a decade which resulted in a half a million civilian deaths?

I'm a Canadian who followed this election for the past months with an almost fanatical obsession. Unlike other Canadians I do not kid myself about how close our ties are with America. We provide you with far more than you realize, and you provide us with far more than we realize. It would be very hard to tell the average Canadian apart from the average American in a great many places. We have a history of friendship that has been tested a great deal over the past four years.

I for one wish that we would join the States. Now, before all the other Canadians out there go ballistic on me, allow me to explain. Three months ago I would not have wanted this at all. We have a better health care system and enjoy a standard of life that is very good. But a vast majority of Canadians would have voted Kerry. If Canada's registered voters had been able to vote in this past election, Kerry would have won the popular vote. And if you had given Canada it's proportionate electoral representative, Kerry would have won the electoral college.

Now I know, that is silly thinking. There is no need to tell me to get out of fantasyland. I know this will not be the case anytime soon and deep down I probably hate the idea.

I guess I just think that as long as americans are looking at the world as their own little backyard, they need to start accepting that their backyard will want some say in how they are managing things.

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