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Old 12-16-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

VillianA is probably a 2p2er and is fairly conservative early. I have played with VillianA a lot.

Villian B is not well known. Is probably not a 2p2er. Lost 1/2 his stack in a way that wasn't horribly donkish, but not well played.

NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: VillianA ( $985 )
Seat 2: VillianB ( $550 )
Seat 3: ( $985 )
Seat 4: ( $1000 )
Seat 5: ( $2010 )
Seat 6: ( $1510 )
Seat 7: ( $1000 )
Seat 8: ( $990 )
Seat 10: HERO ( $970 )
Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Jc Js ]
folds.
LIMPY calls [15].
folds.
Okayp1ayer folds.
HERO raises [50]
VillianA calls [50].
VillianB is all-In [550]
folds.
folds.
LIMPY folds.
HERO calls [500].
VillianA is all-In [935]
HERO is all-In [420]
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:49 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

it looks like you should have raised to isolate?
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

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it looks like you should have raised to isolate?

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I can't see it making a difference - if Villain A is calling 500, he's calling a push.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

I don't like this at all. In general I don't like calling pushes, but this early, I especially don't like it.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Micro, micro, micro. Are you getting too involved with JJ again?? I could understand in the game we played together as it was HU against a donk - but here? No, I'd just let it go after the push from the idiot. I know there's a big chance you're ahead of his range but you've only put 50 in to this pot. Just let it go!
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

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I know there's a big chance you're ahead of his range

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Good reason to call.

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but you've only put 50 in to this pot.

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Bad reason to fold.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Well no, I wouldn't fold if it was HU with the donk! But the fact that the 2p2er has called his raise makes me intently worried. If 2p2er had limped, you raised, and donk had pushed - my chips go in with the quickness. But that didn't happen here. C'mon you know I am not saying you should fold just because you've only put 50 chips into the pot. Hell I called a push at level 1 with AK to a particularly donky donk yesterday, in fact I re-pushed all in, he had KTs and MHWG.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Before I called the big bet the 2p2er had only called the raise to 50.

I am definitely willing to bet this tourney that this 2p2er reraises with QQ+.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

Yes I know that but the crazy donk was to act after him. Maybe he thought that 'the pot will be t125 if I call.. that donk is more likely to go over the top with Ax and I can isolate this guy to my left as he is likely to either re-push or call to his push'? Well it's something I would consider anyway. If you are absolutely sure he wouldn't take this line with AA-QQ then yes you do have to call here.
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Old 12-16-2005, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: $109 - JJ preflop - I\'m not crazy! You\'re the one that\'s crazy!

I'm sure you know, I mean reraises my first raise to 50.

Also, I don't know who they are other than their party name, so might not be a 2p2er, but plays like it.

Also, I don't mean to insult them by saying they don't reraise QQ+ or anything. I reraise QQ+ for sure in that spot.
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