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Old 11-11-2005, 04:50 PM
dogsballs dogsballs is offline
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Default Re: To all of the downswing whiners around here

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Neither 45% ITM nor 36% ROI are possible at the 55's.

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?? You sure..?

I was 34% ROI at the 55's over about 2k $55 SNG's until I lost my PT db. Since then I've got 39.8% ITM/31.6% ROI% over 1400 $55 sng's.

And there are definitely better players than me around, so I wouldn't rule out someone making it 36% ROI.

edit: the tough part might be getting both 40% ITM and 36% ROI at the same time...but who gives a XXX about ITM anyway...
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:53 PM
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ask people who regularly play the 100s about ppisgreedy, jljf3, and annabegins85- i am the best.
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Old 11-11-2005, 04:56 PM
dogsballs dogsballs is offline
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I play mainly 33's - 55's. Some 109's. Not claiming those were my numbers, either, but I dont think 40% ITM at $55 is unreasonable.

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My ITM at the 55's is currently 39.81% over 1400. I could definitely improve that, but it'd probably drop my ROI.

I'm sure there are a bunch of posters here who hit 40 and the 30's for ITM and ROI respectively.
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Old 11-11-2005, 05:00 PM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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I beat the 55s for 12%

No offense, but I don't consider a 12% SNG ROI to be "beating" anything. Randomly, you should be ITM 30% of the time. To my mind, the threshhold of "beating" them is a 50% increase over the average, or 45% ITM. At 45% ITM spread evenly over the 3 payout spots (assuming a 10-handed table), your ROI should be 36%.

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Your "beating" measuring methods are WAY off, akin to saying if the average baseball player hits .260, to be REALLY doing well, you should hit .390.
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Old 11-11-2005, 07:57 PM
Nick-Zack Nick-Zack is offline
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Default Re: To all of the downswing whiners around here

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Neither 45% ITM nor 36% ROI are possible at the 55's.

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Regression to the Mean is a statistic that these high flyers will enjoy soon.
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Old 11-11-2005, 08:08 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: To all of the downswing whiners around here

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I was 34% ROI at the 55's over about 2k $55 SNG's until I lost my PT db. Since then I've got 39.8% ITM/31.6% ROI% over 1400 $55 sng's.

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You are literally the biggest winner I've ever heard of for that sample size and without denigrating your abilities, I believe you're probably running hot unless you are < 4 tabling. It might be barely possible now with an extra level added in and some TAG's removed because of the skins, I dunno.

45% ITM is one of those things that you could maybe do in a vacuum, but you'd probably wind up losing money overall, so why bother?
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Old 11-11-2005, 09:13 PM
dogsballs dogsballs is offline
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I'm surprised that's the best you've heard of at the 55's.

I'm not convinced it's running hot; my PS turbo 55's were low 30's ROI as well, but I dont play them much now. Whatever, if it is running hot then I hope I stay hot for the next few thousand sng's as well... [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

6-8 tables. 4-6 sng's plus a few MTT's is the order of things for me.
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:01 AM
psyduck psyduck is offline
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Jesus. Those are some CRAZY stats Dogsballs.

I had a 700 SNG breakeven stretch last month. However, my game had slipped then because I was trying to do 50 every day and would focus on just hammering that out.
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:39 AM
rwesty rwesty is offline
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Why haven't you moved up?
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:59 AM
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Jesus. Those are some CRAZY stats Dogsballs.

I had a 700 SNG breakeven stretch last month. However, my game had slipped then because I was trying to do 50 every day and would focus on just hammering that out.

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i have found that when i do this, i always run [censored]
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