Finally figured out AK in early rounds....

gildwulf · #1 07-13-2005, 01:13 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)
Hero (t800)
BB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t15, 1 fold, MP1 raises to t85, 1 fold, MP3 calls t85, Hero reraises [all-in]4 folds, MP1 folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: t207.50

11t · #2 07-13-2005, 01:15 PM

Yah, I hate calling here since you are out of position and only hit the flop 33% of the time.

gildwulf · #3 07-13-2005, 01:21 PM

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Yah, I hate calling here since you are out of position and only hit the flop 33% of the time.

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Yea, plus 200 chips early on is an extra 1/4 on your old stack...

HAHHA while I was writing this post I just did the exact same thing at level 2 for another 300 chips...

bluewilde · #4 07-13-2005, 01:16 PM

I just did this at an 11, and villain flipped QK. I was esctatic, but there was a Q on the flop. Should I not be doing this at the lower limits or is that just a bad beat?

tigerite · #5 07-13-2005, 01:17 PM

You already know the answer.

bluewilde · #6 07-13-2005, 01:24 PM

haha...I'm actually not sure. At this level I get called with such a wide range of hands I wondered if it was right to risk it all so early. That the outcome is a bad beat, I understand. I was wondering if the number of times I get called by a dominated hand outweighs the chance I get called by a pair or another hand that I'm pretty even against.

tigerite · #7 07-13-2005, 01:48 PM

I think it's fine as mostly you will end up either in a race or with a hand that massively dominates whatever the idiots call with, and the ratio is pretty much 50:50. This makes it a massively +EV play.

tminus · #8 07-13-2005, 02:45 PM

actually he brings up a good point
if played on the flop he may have been able to extract mroe chips. loose players LOVE to bet split pairs even if there's an overcard present so slick is perfect in this situation

gildwulf · #9 07-13-2005, 02:48 PM

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actually he brings up a good point
if played on the flop he may have been able to extract mroe chips. loose players LOVE to bet split pairs even if there's an overcard present so slick is perfect in this situation

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So sorry, but this is exactly wrong. You are going to make any small pair fold or any hand like that so you will win a small pot or lose a huge pot vs. AA or KK (which you would have lost anyways). And as far as getting the higher kicker...odds are that anyone that would call or reraise all-in with TP 9 or 10 kicker would probably call your all-in on the flop with AT...ie DONKSVILLE.

tminus · #10 07-13-2005, 02:55 PM

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You are going to make any small pair fold

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read carefully, i said "split pair", alot of these guys will call your preflop raise with Kx Qx AQ and call bets because they paired one of there cards....its a great opportunity really

so much more room to play real poker on the flop and turn with this hand as opposed to pushing