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Old 12-22-2005, 04:54 AM
vanHelsing vanHelsing is offline
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Default AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

Opponent is 29/4/1.5 over a couple of hundred hands.
I never ever have seen him going out of line.
My image is TAG (20/10), nothing wild so far in this session.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Hero ($251.10)
MP ($198.40)
CO ($249.90)
Button ($52.81)
SB ($157.40)
BB ($438.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $30</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero calls $22.

Flop: ($63) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP checks.

Turn: ($63) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

River: ($123) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Converter messed it up: I check, he bets 125, I fold.

Final Pot: $123

After I get reraised PF, exactly KK comes to mind. My plan is to just call PF and CR all-in on the Flop. Standard? I am not sure, if the fact, that he very likely has KK asks for a push or a call? I can't tell, if he is capable of folding KK PF against me.

OK, I hated this flop, how is the rest against this guy?

PS: a couple of orbits he reraised my PF 10$ to 20$ with KK, my ATs hit an A high flop and I took some bucks from him. Maybe he learned from it...
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

River's tough, I suppose he might have AK so I call

But yeah if some one with those stats re-raises preflop I don't think he will fold to a 3-bet
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

Hero minraised preflop, lol
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Old 12-22-2005, 06:44 AM
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Default Re: AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

3 bet allin preflop, surely?

An A or K (and maybe Q) on the flop will either kill your action or give you a hard time.

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Old 12-22-2005, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

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Hero minraised preflop, lol

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What are you talking about?
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Old 12-22-2005, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

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River's tough, I suppose he might have AK so I call

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I don't think a PFR of 4% is reraising a tight UTG-raiser with AK ever.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: AA gets reraised PF by nitty player

200 hands is not nearly enough to conclude villain would only reraise PF with AA/KK. A case could be made for reraising again preflop. Last 4-5 times I pushed PF after getting reraised, I was called by KK.

I also play the hand more aggressively postflop. If villain has KK, he will let you know.
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:44 AM
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200 hands is not nearly enough to conclude villain would only reraise PF with AA/KK.

[/ QUOTE ] Actually it's &gt; 700 hands.

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A case could be made for reraising again preflop.

[/ QUOTE ]Absolutely and I now think it's the best play against someone holding KK 80% of the time. While in the hand, I thought his tightness would point towards he is capable of a big laydown. Now I think, the fact he has a very strong hand actually increases the chance I get called. Next time I would push. OOP is and additional factor pointing towards putting him all-in.
Edit: OTOH my play might have saved me some bucks, but only, if my read is very accurate here.

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I also play the hand more aggressively postflop. If villain has KK, he will let you know.

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Hm, too short for that, no? And, he is quite predictable. I was convinced, I get a cheap SD if he has AK/QQ, so I didn't see any sense in betting.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:05 AM
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I would re-raise preflop- What hand/hands are you putting him on with his preflop raise? you can't for certain put him on KK with only this action!! If you tought he had KK well your way ahead and should re-pot. The way the hand played out he could have AK/KK/QQ/JJ I think you need to more aggro preflop- postflop and turn.
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Old 12-22-2005, 11:46 AM
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River's tough, I suppose he might have AK so I call

But yeah if some one with those stats re-raises preflop I don't think he will fold to a 3-bet

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Are you suggesting that if a player is going to fold to your raise then you should smooth call and trap him on the flop?
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