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Old 12-08-2005, 08:39 AM
Stealthy Stealthy is offline
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Default AJ on the button facing too much action.

UTG is a 70/0/1 player who has no idea and reguarly overplays his hands. No read on UTG+1 as this is his first orbit.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero?

What is my play here and plan for the rest of the hand on this heavily coordinated board?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

I'd 3-bet here. You say UTG overplays hands and UTG+1 may be raising with a draw or a weaker pair.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

3 bet the flop sounds ok for reasons stated. ... i think it might be better to just call the flop, and then if a blank hits the turn, raise the turn. its one of those hands where your pot equity could change very largely with the turn, as discussed in SSHE. then you could be looking at anywhere from fold to raise on the turn.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

[ QUOTE ]
i think it might be better to just call the flop, and then if a blank hits the turn, raise the turn

[/ QUOTE ] this is what i was thinking.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

I like the turn call. Villain(s) may then place you as the one on the flush draw and, assuming no more diamonds come, you may even get bet into if he was raising a worse Jack, Straight draw or even protecting his 2nd pair.
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

OK I did call the flop waiting for a safe turn card to raise.

Hero calls

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG 3 bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero?
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

*grunching*

Call with intent of raising a safe turn?
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Old 12-08-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

Oyyy...who knows what UTG has? He never PFRs...so coulda been slowplaying trips...or maybe has KQ. I guess I'd just call down unless I catch that A or J.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

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OK I did call the flop waiting for a safe turn card to raise.

Hero calls

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG 3 bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero?

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Hey Stealthy getting 15:1 closing the action folding isn't an option.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: AJ on the button facing too much action.

with 4 outs to fill up and hoooge pot: call.
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