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Old 04-05-2005, 02:45 AM
JDErickson JDErickson is offline
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Default Ace Jacking off

SB 29/19/3.8
UTG 78/19/1.1 fucktard

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG calls, SB calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls $0.50 (All-In), <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

River: (20.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB

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Old 04-05-2005, 03:04 AM
mperich mperich is offline
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Default Re: Ace Jacking off

Good.
PF could argue for a fold but against these two guys and with position on the 3better I think its ok.

-Mike
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Old 04-05-2005, 04:37 AM
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Default Re: Ace Jacking off

Looks good to me...as was mentioned preflop is close but you are getting a discount and these are two donks in terms of pfr #s.

I like the fastplay, especially given both the villains postflop aggression and the fact that UTG is shortstacked...

I'd play the turn and river the same, and expect to see overpairs/A9/worse Jacks/,hell even AhKh more often than 99.

Surf
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:05 AM
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I think you are too results oriented. U could easily be dominated here. AJo is an easy fold for me if it's 3-bet earlier. Of course it's easy to take their stack when you hit it, but there is a great chance, that u miss totally or get a pair of jacks or a pair of aces. In both cases u have to call it to the river often finding a bigger PP or bigger ace.. -EV in long term.
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Old 04-05-2005, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: Ace Jacking off

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I think you are too results oriented. U could easily be dominated here. AJo is an easy fold for me if it's 3-bet earlier. Of course it's easy to take their stack when you hit it, but there is a great chance, that u miss totally or get a pair of jacks or a pair of aces. In both cases u have to call it to the river often finding a bigger PP or bigger ace.. -EV in long term.

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Did you see the stats of the other two guys?
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:03 AM
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I think you are too results oriented. U could easily be dominated here. AJo is an easy fold for me if it's 3-bet earlier. Of course it's easy to take their stack when you hit it, but there is a great chance, that u miss totally or get a pair of jacks or a pair of aces. In both cases u have to call it to the river often finding a bigger PP or bigger ace.. -EV in long term.

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Did you see the stats of the other two guys?

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PF raise 19%? That's hi, but AJo is still a shitty hand against a 3-bet. I don't know if these guys are dumb enough to 3-bet something like KJo.

AJo is a pretty shitty hand even against a raise. Given this situation I'd 3-bet one of those raisers, but when they want to go to a war, I stay out.
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Old 04-05-2005, 07:44 AM
Mr. Graff Mr. Graff is offline
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I think you are too results oriented. U could easily be dominated here. AJo is an easy fold for me if it's 3-bet earlier. Of course it's easy to take their stack when you hit it, but there is a great chance, that u miss totally or get a pair of jacks or a pair of aces. In both cases u have to call it to the river often finding a bigger PP or bigger ace.. -EV in long term.

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Did you see the stats of the other two guys?

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19% is not that high. Especially considering you will be in between two aggressors for the rest of the hand with a hand you will almost never be comfortable with (except on this miracle flop [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]).
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:06 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
I think you are too results oriented. U could easily be dominated here. AJo is an easy fold for me if it's 3-bet earlier. Of course it's easy to take their stack when you hit it, but there is a great chance, that u miss totally or get a pair of jacks or a pair of aces. In both cases u have to call it to the river often finding a bigger PP or bigger ace.. -EV in long term.

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Did you see the stats of the other two guys?

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Not to mention this could very easily be a spot that UTG is being isolated. He seems to be pretty close to all in.
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Old 04-05-2005, 08:11 AM
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I'd fold preflop even guys with PFR of 19 are going to have some idea about position.

An UTG raise is always solid and so is an SB 3bet, you might be ahead but pretty unlikely, you are also out of position against UTG so I think its an easy fold.

The rest seems fine.
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Old 04-05-2005, 09:26 AM
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I think folding here is nuts. You're up against 2 players who are raising one out of 5 hands. Plus SB's stats look decent even though they're a little LAGish. He could definitely be trying to isolate the weak limper. You already have one BB in. AJ is a monster in this spot.
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