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Old 08-23-2005, 10:39 AM
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Default Top Pair w/Flush Draw

is it possible to get away from these type of hands?

let's say you have a6 of hearts and flop an ace with 2 hearts. someone that is probably holding a better ace is making decent sized bets at the pot. you miss your draw on the river and your left with a pair of aces and a junk kicker.

what do the 2 + 2er's do in this situation
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Old 08-23-2005, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Top Pair w/Flush Draw

it depends.
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Old 08-23-2005, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair w/Flush Draw

Calculate the odds of hitting your flush, and the pot odds. If you are getting the right odds, draw to your flush. If not, fold. Make sure to consider whether he'll pay you off if your heart comes. If he won't, fold. If you're on the riv with a crappy kicker, you probably have to call him (you only have to catch him bluffing occationally to make money).
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair w/Flush Draw

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greatness...
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Old 08-24-2005, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Top Pair w/Flush Draw

If you have an paired ace plus a flush draw on the flop, you shouldn't be calling, you should be raising. If you miss your flush, you should probably call him down if there is only one other opponent.
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: Top Pair w/Flush Draw

If your opponent has a better A, you have 12 outs, which will earn you the pot almost half the time. If there's a card on board that is bigger than her kicker (ie she holds AJ and the board is AQ2, you have an additional 3 outs to a split if another 2 falls). Your hand is even better if the pair you have isn't top pair, as you will have an extra 2 outs to your trips, which gives you an edge vs top pair.

If you "know" your opponent has a bigger kicker, then calling on the river will often be wrong. But sometimes you will be wrong also. It depends how certain you are that your opponents kicker is better than yours (and this also depends on the size of your own kicker). This will also depend on how high the top pair is.
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