AKo unimproved, 19.25 bb pot... - Page 2

o0mr_bill0o · #11 05-19-2005, 09:34 PM

yes, yes it did occur to me. however, i'm not interested in advice, because at the time i was dropping down and interested in blowing off some steam and lagging it up a bit. it's a fold every day of the week when i'm playing seriously.

@bsolute_luck · #12 05-19-2005, 10:22 PM

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yes, yes it did occur to me. however, i'm not interested in advice, because at the time i was dropping down and interested in blowing off some steam and lagging it up a bit. it's a fold every day of the week when i'm playing seriously.

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translation: no point in this thread. encourages result-oriented thinking. bumps good posts to 2nd page. don't mean to be rude, but there is no reason to post this thread.

2+2 wannabe · #13 05-20-2005, 01:45 AM

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2. BB is one for the buddy list.

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i like the BB's river bet a lot - he should've won this pot
BB did have the open-ended straight draw

if anything, hero is on the buddy list

scotty34 · #14 05-20-2005, 01:49 AM

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River play is good illustration as Ed Miller likes to note that you should call with AK unimproved when the pot is that big, because there's a better than 1 in 20 chance that the villain is bluffing.

But yea, fold the flop. With that bet/raise action I would say your A and K outs are now dirty. Likely relying on your backdoor draws.

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Ummm... without an incredible read (and even with one), calling the river with Ace High vs a flop raiser/capper is -EV.

SCfuji · #15 05-20-2005, 02:01 AM

y o u g o t l u c k y d u d e .

Quercus · #16 05-20-2005, 08:54 AM

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Flop: (11.50 SB) 8, T, 2 (5 players)
SB bets, BB raises, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB caps, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

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Nak · #17 05-20-2005, 09:20 AM

With your two backdoor draws, I think that your implied odds warrant a flop call (not a 3-bet), but I would fold the turn.

The best part about this thread is how upset your post made people. I disagree that this post encourages results oriented thinking. Posting the results shows that, yes, the wrong play will get lucky somtimes, but it's still the wrong play.

Nak

Ivanapolis · #18 05-20-2005, 09:36 AM

Well played! Nice 3-bet on the flop! A bad player would have folded it. Just another example how to play AK in an excellent way. I like it very much. Maybe some of the guys at 2/4 would do anything to get you back to their limit to learn more from your skills. I prefer to see you at 50/1.
Good illustration!

Marquis · #19 05-20-2005, 09:40 AM

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Well played! Nice 3-bet on the flop! A bad player would have folded it. Just another example how to play AK in an excellent way. I like it very much. Maybe some of the guys at 2/4 would do anything to get you back to their limit to learn more from your skills. I prefer to see you at 50/1.
Good illustration!

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Can someone please tell me what this guy's deal is?

Ivanapolis · #20 05-20-2005, 09:50 AM

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2. BB is one for the buddy list.

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i like the BB's river bet a lot - he should've won this pot
BB did have the open-ended straight draw

if anything, hero is on the buddy list

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I agree. Although there are 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]s on the flop and the J doesn't make nuts (only 3 clean outs and a lot of redraws), I probably would have played it in the same way on the flop. After this I think it's better to semibluff on the turn and bluff on the river than to give it up in this huge pot.