Do you like "just calling" w/ AA from EP?

Toddy · #1 10-25-2005, 01:07 PM

This is one of my favorite plays in Holdem. I will do this with Kings also sometimes. Seems like there is always a raise behind me and then I can re raise. If everyone just calls oh well and I'll have no problem folding it after the flop if I HAVE to. If the blinds are really big I will raise with it. I'm talking early in a MTT or SNG.

warewulf · #2 10-25-2005, 01:35 PM

Sometimes it can work out. Other times it will bite you in the ass. Yesterday I was playing a sng online and got pocket aces utg so I checked it. Blinds were 25/50, Someone late in position raises it up to 200. I made it 600 and he called. Flop is QQx. I check, he checks. Turn is another rag so I go all in. He calls, turns over Q7o. I don't know why he called my re-raise, but obviously I wasn't happy.

Toddy · #3 10-25-2005, 01:50 PM

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Sometimes it can work out. Other times it will bite you in the ass. Yesterday I was playing a sng online and got pocket aces utg so I checked it. Blinds were 25/50, Someone late in position raises it up to 200. I made it 600 and he called. Flop is QQx. I check, he checks. Turn is another rag so I go all in. He calls, turns over Q7o. I don't know why he called my re-raise, but obviously I wasn't happy.

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DONK strikes again!

Toddy · #4 11-03-2005, 11:11 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP2 (t1645)
CO (t1255)
Button (t4790)
SB (t870)
BB (t1835)
Hero (t2350)
UTG+1 (t725)
MP1 (t1730)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero calls t30, UTG+1 calls t30, 1 fold, MP2 raises to t60, 3 folds, BB calls t30, Hero raises to t300, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, BB calls t240.

Flop: (t705) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t455, BB raises to t1535, Hero calls t1080.

Turn: (t3775) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: (t3775) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: t3775

He had 55

Guthrie · #5 10-25-2005, 01:58 PM

He called your re-raise because he had a card with a picture on it. That's usually enough.

warewulf · #6 10-25-2005, 02:02 PM

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He called your re-raise because he had a card with a picture on it. That's usually enough.

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That must have been it. Pretty pictures! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

outdrwn · #7 10-26-2005, 06:29 PM

Hey, he's good for poker.. although its a bad beat its pretty hilarious........sorry

warewulf · #8 10-26-2005, 07:00 PM

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Hey, he's good for poker.. although its a bad beat its pretty hilarious........sorry

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I agree. Anytime someone sucks out on me I just tell myself that they were an idiot for calling in the first place. As long as my chips go in with the best hand, especially when I'm dominating, I'm happy.

When they suck out like that, I'll always congratulate them on the hand hoping the make the same mistake again. It's still hard to stop myself from smashing things when they suck out though! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

pipster · #9 10-26-2005, 09:26 AM

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Sometimes it can work out. Other times it will bite you in the ass. Yesterday I was playing a sng online and got pocket aces utg so I checked it. Blinds were 25/50, Someone late in position raises it up to 200. I made it 600 and he called. Flop is QQx. I check, he checks. Turn is another rag so I go all in. He calls, turns over Q7o. I don't know why he called my re-raise, but obviously I wasn't happy.

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So you got him to put in 15x the BB or so with Q/7 vs your AA? I would encourage him to do this every time... in NL a limp/reraise is about the only way to play AA from early position. Any reasonable raise will just get called (probably by to many people) and a big raise will get you only the blinds. Limp/reraise will often "anger" them and get them to call with a hand they would have folded if you had raised out early.

Not sure how well it works at 50/100 limit or 1000 buy-in NL as I don't play that high... but I would imagine those guys don't fall for it. But at 100 NL and 3/6 Limit they fall for it EVERY time.

Edge34 · #10 10-26-2005, 10:21 AM

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in NL a limp/reraise is about the only way to play AA from early position. Any reasonable raise will just get called (probably by to many people) and a big raise will get you only the blinds.

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This is frighteningly wrong.