quite possibly the dummest hand i've ever experienced...

hypermegachi · #1 05-15-2005, 01:52 PM

Paradise Poker 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, MP caps, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (20 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP raises, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, MP caps, Button calls, Hero folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (19 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button checks.

River: (19 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Button bets, BB folds, UTG calls, MP folds.

Final Pot: 21 BB

Results in white below: 
UTG has 7c Th (one pair, sevens).
Button has 7h 2d (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: UTG wins 21 BB. 

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i think i screwed up the flop here...what is the best line?

SomethingClever · #2 05-15-2005, 01:54 PM

Checking is fine... if you're gonna 3-bet when it's back to you on the flop. Good lord, don't fold for two more bets when you've already called two.

Don't fold the turn or river either, at least not for one bet.

Finally, don't include results as they will skew the commentary on your hand.

hypermegachi · #3 05-15-2005, 01:59 PM

the only reason i included the results this time is because i don't think there's much discussion after the flop. if you're continuing past the flop, pot odds will make you call down.

and of course...after folding the flop and seeing what happened on the turn and river just made me want to puke.

Chobohoya · #4 05-15-2005, 04:41 PM

Was your flop fold a misclick?

RunDownHouse · #5 05-15-2005, 05:33 PM

Seriously:

Seriously bad.

Seriously, I thought the same as SomethingClever. Only the check/3bet never materialized.

Seriously, a check/3bet line isn't great anyways.

Seriously, put those guys on your buddy list. Unless it was late on a weekend night.

hypermegachi · #6 05-15-2005, 05:59 PM

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Was your flop fold a misclick?

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no. i figured i would have to call at least 3BB or more to see a showdown.

2ndGoat · #7 05-15-2005, 06:04 PM

check-3betting is ok. once you didn't, foldign to 2 more was not terrible EXCEPT that given what they showed down, you should have already had the read on them to know they're out of their mind, and known not to trust them.

2nd

Silverback · #8 05-15-2005, 06:13 PM

If you had any reads on how bad these players were then you should never have folded,

The players are about as bad as you can get, think its time I started playing at Paradise.

hypermegachi · #9 05-15-2005, 06:14 PM

i gave them the benefit of the doubt that even if they sucked that much they would not go crazy when everyone at the table is in the hand with preflop capped.

Silverback · #10 05-15-2005, 06:35 PM

have you got the bankroll for $3/$6?

I mean like 600 times the BB and your comfortable playing at these types of crazy tables?

Sometimes when theres a few crazy players at a table it can screw up the mind of a thinking player like yourself, especially if your conscious of losing,

Whereas if you can just carry on with hands like this and out ride bad beats then you'll be ok.

Personally i dont like more than 1 maniac at my table as the swings can be huge.