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12-24-2005, 03:47 PM
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Re: 15/30 AK
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3-betting the flop offers 12:1 on a call. QT and JT aren't going anywhere peeps. Calling and raising the turn offers 8:1 and gets more money in against KQ etc when the wayyyyyyyy averaggro dude has that. I hate calling down here but I do it. That guy usually has 99/K9s here but AQd, AJd, even KQs and obviously a chop are enough of a consideration that I'm seeing a showdown unless one of the people raises behind me, especially on a diamond. [/ QUOTE ] this sounds good to me except for the bolded part, I've never seen this type of move in a multiway pot with these. granted I haven't played that much poker (maybe 100K hands total?) Jason are these stats all from full ring at 15/30? if they were 10/20 SH stats and he was stepping up, he'd actually be a much tougher opponent than his stats would indicate 
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#2
12-24-2005, 05:06 PM
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Re: 15/30 AK
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[ QUOTE ] 3-betting the flop offers 12:1 on a call. QT and JT aren't going anywhere peeps. Calling and raising the turn offers 8:1 and gets more money in against KQ etc when the wayyyyyyyy averaggro dude has that. I hate calling down here but I do it. That guy usually has 99/K9s here but AQd, AJd, even KQs and obviously a chop are enough of a consideration that I'm seeing a showdown unless one of the people raises behind me, especially on a diamond. [/ QUOTE ] this sounds good to me except for the bolded part, I've never seen this type of move in a multiway pot with these. granted I haven't played that much poker (maybe 100K hands total?) Jason are these stats all from full ring at 15/30? if they were 10/20 SH stats and he was stepping up, he'd actually be a much tougher opponent than his stats would indicate [/ QUOTE ] They are mined 10/20 full-ring stats.
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12-23-2005, 07:11 PM
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Re: 15/30 AK
You absolutely HAVE to 3-bet the flop here. No way would I give all these callers a chance to draw out on my likely best hand for free. You need to do everything you can to get this pot heads up. It's the correct move, even if you are crushed by UTG+1 on the flop (his range, on the flop, includes lots of suited broadway cards, so there's a good chance you're ahead already).
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12-23-2005, 07:12 PM
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Re: 15/30 AK
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You absolutely HAVE to 3-bet the flop here. No way would I give all these callers a chance to draw out on my likely best hand for free. You need to do everything you can to get this pot heads up. It's the correct move, even if you are crushed by UTG+1 on the flop (his range, on the flop, includes lots of suited broadway cards, so there's a good chance you're ahead already). [/ QUOTE ] 3-betting the flop is actually a lot worse than calling.
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