($22): Attempting to own the bubble, worth it at 22s?

[jonoo]

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even in a $22 you must push this, your hand is too strong and its the bubble.

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what level do you say this becomes -EV? what if heros hand was weaker?

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even in a $22 you must push this, your hand is too strong and its the bubble.

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what level do you say this becomes -EV? what if heros hand was weaker?

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I think he is saying it becomes more +EV at the higher levels because you are less likely to have some dipwad in the BB calling with A7o.

[jonoo]

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even in a $22 you must push this, your hand is too strong and its the bubble.

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what level do you say this becomes -EV? what if heros hand was weaker?

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I think he is saying it becomes more +EV at the higher levels because you are less likely to have some dipwad in the BB calling with A7o.

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yeah thats what i figured, but was thinking that maybe in higher levels the players could see right through that play and call w/ a semi-wide range. which prob still be a bad play. If you are in SB or BB and are playing to win what range do you call w/?

[tigerite]

By the way him calling with A7o didn't even hurt your equity. The beauty about K2s here is their ranges can be absolutely huge and you still profit.

It's not quite "unexploitable" but I can't see the BB calling more than 22+,A2+,K7o+,K2s+,QTo,Q9s+,JTs.. can you?

[Ixnert]

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It's not quite "unexploitable" but I can't see the BB calling more than 22+,A2+,K7o+,K2s+,QTo,Q9s+,JTs.. can you?

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I can. Not the first time you push, but at least at the 33s, I wish I had a dollar for every time I got called by something like J5o just because someone got tired of my pushes the fourth or fifth time around. (This may just be a product of the freakishly long bubbles I've been finding myself playing lately, that they even have long enough to get frustrated at it, but these things happen.)

Not that I mind in that case, but I definitely can see a calling range wider than that, yes.

[Shillx]

Shove any 2. This spot is an absoulte winfall for you. Okay maybe shove somewhat less due to the overcall effect. Overcalling on the bubble is risky business though as you need a very strong hand to make it +EV. If it goes push-call, he will still be in a tough spot with something like 66. Maybe shove top 90% or something.

I'd push any two here.

There are situations where I'll fold bad hands, even though they might be marginally +EV, when 1) I've been pushing a lot lately. Showing them I fold *some* hands gives me more credibility. 2) Their calling ranges are getting too wide and 3) If they call my all-in and I show 82o, I've lost almost all FE. (Yes, bad players will call you with bad hands if they see you push with even worse hands...)

So I guess I give up some marginally +EV spots to keep some FE intact.

That was a terrible call by the BB. It would be a bad call even if your cards were face up.

I would, however, call with any Ace or any pair if I was shortie on the Button.