TPMK river decision, 2/4 party full table

[spahk]

this kind of situation comes up a lot. i'm still unsure what to do. SB villian in this hand is (i think) a winning player. a little on the aggressive side. i have a tight image.

Party Poker (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds. Hero raises to $15. 3 folds. SB calls $13. 1 fold.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks. Hero bets $25. SB calls $25.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB bets $80. Hero?

thanks in advance.

[stu-unger]

i think i call expecting to chop a really high percentage of the time, maybe i suck. i just dont see a 3, a boat or AK playing it this way. maybe he missed a check raise on the turn but i call and expect to see another ace.

[kongo_totte]

With the turned flush draw, I bet the turn.

[Voltron87]

fold, its sort of close.

[TheWorstPlayer]

I usually call and regret it. I still think you're ahead enough of the time to make this a call, though. That check behind on the turn induces enough bluffs to make this a call.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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With the turned flush draw, I bet the turn.

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I definitely check with the turned flush draw. Why let him c/r you off it?

[spahk]

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With the turned flush draw, I bet the turn.

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I definitely check with the turned flush draw. Why let him c/r you off it?

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my thoughts exactly, but is this check inducing bluffs i can't call?

people seem to be all over the place on this one, but i feel like it is a pretty common situation. how often do i have to chop for a call to be +ev here? how often am i ahead?

[TheWorstPlayer]

I think you're ahead of a K a fair amount of the time. I think it's close, but I think it's a call. Obviously you will be behind a 3 or AK some of the time as well. And some of the time you'll be chopping (although it is hard to come up with an ace hand that calls the flop bet.) Probably you're behind a 3 40%, ahead of a king 20%, ahead of a lower pocket pair 20% and chopping with an ace 20%. Something like that? Obviously those numbers are PIDOOMA and could be very far off and are also dependend on the playing style of the opponent.

[spahk]

thanks for all the replies. i couldn't see how an ace called the flop bet unless it was with a king or 3. a plain king leading the river for the full pot when the ace hit seemed unlikely as well. that's more of a check-call-to-snap-off-bluffs kind of holding. i figured at the time that it was a big hand or pure bluff. i folded.

[MTBlue]

Please elucidate me on why people are thinking that villain called the flop bet with just ace high?