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Old 12-20-2005, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: Do I have to bet this turn?

checking this turn misses out on a ton of value from UTG, If you have BB beat, he'll fold but not always, UTG doesn't want to go anywhere and will pay you off a lot w/ a worse hand here. I think you have to be able to fold to a river bet if BB c/r's and you don't improve on the river.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:20 PM
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checking this turn misses out on a ton of value from UTG, If you have BB beat, he'll fold but not always, UTG doesn't want to go anywhere and will pay you off a lot w/ a worse hand here. I think you have to be able to fold to a river bet if BB c/r's and you don't improve on the river.

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I assume you mean missing value against SB? I think our equity here is very very poor, the only hand BB could have now that we are reasonably ahead of is QQ and we are behind AK/AQ/AJ/AA/KK/JJ and tied with KQ

even if we happen to be ahead we're really not way ahead of anybody. let's just check and river a T.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:21 PM
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:27 PM
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checking this turn misses out on a ton of value from UTG, If you have BB beat, he'll fold but not always, UTG doesn't want to go anywhere and will pay you off a lot w/ a worse hand here. I think you have to be able to fold to a river bet if BB c/r's and you don't improve on the river.

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I assume you mean missing value against SB? I think our equity here is very very poor, the only hand BB could have now that we are reasonably ahead of is QQ and we are behind AK/AQ/AJ/AA/KK/JJ and tied with KQ

even if we happen to be ahead we're really not way ahead of anybody. let's just check and river a T.

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With his numbers, this could be in the 88/99/TT area too. But I agree that this is a check with outs.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:31 PM
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With his numbers, this could be in the 88/99/TT area too. But I agree that this is a check with outs.

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after the flop action i'm discounting those hands quite a bit..
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Old 12-20-2005, 06:39 PM
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With his numbers, this could be in the 88/99/TT area too. But I agree that this is a check with outs.

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after the flop action i'm discounting those hands quite a bit..

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Even from a 26VPIP/4.5AF?
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