Stuff I do that I don't like

[MN_Mime]

Probably. With 1 limper and no highcard strength, I just let BB represent...

[KingOtter]

The only thing I really see as questionable is the cold-call on the flop.

The pot is pretty big, and I think you're getting 12:2 on the call.. maybe 14:2 if you count the better/caller.

The good news is that your 2-pair outs are golden, and unlikely to help anyone except a back-door wheel. 5 outs, plus BD flush, BD straight, 7 outs.

Meh... I guess that's a call. I don't think I'd like doing it, though.

On the turn the pot is so huge the call is assured.

KO

[deception5]

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The problem is me being a scared little girl?

I can buy into that.


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lol, not exactly - just that you are letting past beats affect current hands.

[MN_Mime]

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Meh... I guess that's a call. I don't think I'd like doing it, though.

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Exactly. That's why your post was serendipitous. Against this table with a pot this big, I don't think it's a big mistake to call but it sure feels dirty when you get 3-bet.

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It ties to your post in two ways:

1) Limpers. In a family pot like this, you're getting correct odds to play. In fact, in a raised pot there's an argument to stick with suited small-gap hands preflop with 3 or more opponents.

2) I thought it interesting that someone suggested that you lead your second pair OOP with an uncoordinated rainbow flop because your pair is often good against 1 limper where I think it's clearly wrong to do so in my hand because I'm almost certainly behind. High card strength is more important with fewer opponents. Clean outs and drawing power are more important multiway (high card strength still good <grin&gt.

[deception5]

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I thought it interesting that someone suggested that you lead your second pair OOP with an uncoordinated rainbow flop because your pair is often good against 1 limper where I think it's clearly wrong to do so in my hand because I'm almost certainly behind. High card strength is more important with fewer opponents. Clean outs and drawing power are more important multiway (high card strength still good <grin&gt.

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It was me [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] And yes, there are a few reasons to lead on an uncoordinated queen high flop like that against 2 players. First, it is unlikely your opponents realize that their 6 outs are likely good. On a 7 high board you'll much more often be called by a hand like JT who may assume 6 outs.

Against 7 players it would be suicidal to lead with a pair of 6's on a queen high flop.

[ErrantNight]

wow you butchered this.

fold that flop all day long.

[ErrantNight]

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The only thing I really see as questionable is the cold-call on the flop.

The pot is pretty big, and I think you're getting 12:2 on the call.. maybe 14:2 if you count the better/caller.

The good news is that your 2-pair outs are golden, and unlikely to help anyone except a back-door wheel. 5 outs, plus BD flush, BD straight, 7 outs.

Meh... I guess that's a call. I don't think I'd like doing it, though.

On the turn the pot is so huge the call is assured.

KO

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Wha....?

[ErrantNight]

how many more bets are you planning on putting into this pot?

[MN_Mime]

You call this unraised, though, right?

Right or not, I was pretty confident that bettor and cold-caller would complete and that my outs were clean.

[car ramrod]

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The players:

UTG 50 VPIP, 0 PFR, Agg 5 (< 50 hands)
UTG+1 44 VPIP, 0 PFR, Agg 0 (< 50 hands)
MP2 58 VPIP, 0 PFR, Agg .22 (< 50 hands)
MP3 62 VPIP, 1.2 PFR, Agg .07 (>100 hands)
CO 65 VPIP, 0 PFR, Agg .74 (>100 hands)
But 55 VPIP, 0 PFR, Agg .68 (50-100 hands)
BB no read (tight or no cards?), 10 hands with VPIP of 0

Great table (can any decision be wrong here?), family pot

HERO is in the SB with 6, 4 (9-handed)

PRE-FLOP
UTG SLAG calls, UTG+1 SLP calls, 1 fold, MP2 SLP calls, MP3 SLP calls, CO SLP calls, Button SLP calls, HERO calls, BB checks.
[8 sb]

Easy complete.


FLOP 2, 6, Q (8 players)
HERO checks, BB checks, UTG SLAG bets, UTG+1 SLAG calls, MP2 SLP raises, MP3 SLP folds, CO SLP folds, Button SLP folds, HERO calls, BB folds, UTG SLAG bets, UTG+1 SLAG calls, MP2 SLP calls, HERO calls.
[20 sb]

My thinking here was weak, I think. I had a piece and was very confident my 5 outs were good plus I had BDFD and BDSD. The pot seemed too big to let go being against Q + any broadway. Anybody bet this instead of checking? How about folding when it's two back to you? Calling the 3-bet closing the action seemed the easiest decision here.


TURN 5 (4 players)
HERO checks, UTG SLAG bets, UTG+1 SLAG calls, MP2 SLP calls, HERO calls.
[14 BB]

I think the call is standard. The 5 didn't help anyone and my BDSD improved. Anyone differ here?

RIVER 6 (4 players)
HERO checks, UTG SLAG checks, UTG+1 SLAG checks, MP2 SLP checks.
[Final Pot: 14 BB]

Whiffed on a check-raise. At the time, I felt the table was more aggressive than it looks in the light of day.

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you should fold this flop, and bet the river.