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Old 12-13-2005, 05:59 PM
Femto Femto is offline
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Default ($215 custer) folding from the BB with 1:2.8 odds to call an all-in

The only reason I can think of for folding this is maybe to prolong the bubble? Or do you figure the pusher is a 3:1 favorite against you here with his range of hands, considering the shorty is about to be blinded out, and a solid player like pandirector wouldn't push anything but maybe TT+,AQ+ here knowing that BB is correct to call almost 100% of the time?

#Game No : 3176413211
***** Hand History for Game 3176413211 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $200 Buy-in + $15 Entry Fee Trny:18153939 Level:9
Blinds(250/500) - Saturday, December 10, 10:23:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 67358 (Real Money)
Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: mosesiswet ( $3615 )
Seat 7: unv22 ( $542 )
Seat 8: pandirector ( $1204 )
Seat 10: ffttdd ( $4639 )
Trny:18153939 Level:9
Blinds(250/500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mosesiswet [ 3d 4h ]
unv22 folds.
pandirector is all-In [1204]
ffttdd folds.
mosesiswet folds.
pandirector does not show cards.
pandirector wins 1954 chips
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Old 12-13-2005, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: ($215 custer) folding from the BB with 1:2.8 odds to call an all-i

Actually, pandirector's range has to be 22+,A3o+,A2s+,KJo+,KTs+,QJs or larger for him to call here - he needs to win 30% of the time by ICM - he almost certainly is NOT pushing that much, with unv22 all in in the BB (bar 42 chips) the next hand. Then there's the added slight +$EV for prolonging the bubble. The fold is fine here, IMHO.

It's quite funny how people assume just because pot odds are so great that it's always a call. It really isn't - you should try SNGPT on this situation to see what I mean.
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Old 12-13-2005, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: ($215 custer) folding from the BB with 1:2.8 odds to call an all-i

What tigerite said. pandirector is a good player, he should need a really big hand to push here. Unless he knows that I know that and.... But I digress.

moses
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Old 12-13-2005, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: ($215 custer) folding from the BB with 1:2.8 odds to call an all-in

the funny thing is if you were to put him on TT+,AQ+ you would be getting proper odds to call, but barely. Worst case scenario, u call he gets 2000. Bubble survives next hand. You could prob push Pan's big blind from UTG w/ any two and force him to fold, assuming the small stack is still in the game.
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Old 12-14-2005, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: ($215 custer) folding from the BB with 1:2.8 odds to call an all-i

It's not about odds, it's about ICM! Did you not read my post at all?!
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