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Old 06-27-2005, 04:51 PM
RedZak RedZak is offline
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Default Dumping Queens

Only 3 hands on the villain but he has played them all.


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Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB

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Old 06-27-2005, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

Yeah, I can't see calling down here without a read.
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Old 06-27-2005, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

I like it.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

No, getting it heads up with no reads you probably are going to call down here. I've seen several overplayed flush draws in my day and getting 9-1 on the turn, I call down here.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

if thats your line why don't you fold to the 3bet? looking for a miracle?
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:18 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

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if thats your line why don't you fold to the 3bet? looking for a miracle?

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Getting 16-1 with 2 outs and a BDFD. Implied outs are pretty big here too.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

He's got 2 outs plus a backdoor flush draw. If you give that 3.5 outs, he's getting 15-1 pot odds. With implied odds, that is certainly a correct call. If he was sure the guy had an ace, he played the flop and turn correctly IMO.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:20 PM
HolyBejeesus HolyBejeesus is offline
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The A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] are already accounted for, which limits CO's possible flush draws, since he raised preflop. I'd probably fold to the 3-bet on the flop, or maybe take one off b/c of the bd flush draw.
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Old 06-27-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Dumping Queens

Thats a very valid and very good point here and something I didn't consider. A fold might be the best line.
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