Small flush on a paried board -

vhuntd · #1 03-10-2005, 06:10 PM

Hey guys -
Live 3/6 game Caesars Indiana -
I'm the button with 89 of clubs - 4 people in front of me call and I call, SB completes and big blind checks -
7 small bets

flop is ten of clubs, J of diamonds, 2 of clubs -
UTG bets, 2 people call 1 folds, and i raise, both blinds fold and other 3 call.

UTG is a pretty loose passive player.

Turn is the Jack of clubs.

UTG bets, one player folds, one calls - and it's to me with two other players in the pot. Do i raise or call?
All thoughts and comments appreciated

mr pink · #2 03-10-2005, 06:14 PM

I'm the button with 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] - 4 people in front of me call and I call, SB completes and big blind checks -
7 small bets

flop is T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] -

UTG bets, 2 people call 1 folds, and i raise, both blinds fold and other 3 call.

UTG is a pretty loose passive player.

Turn is the J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

UTG bets, one player folds, one calls - and it's to me with two other players in the pot. Do i raise or call?

buhler26 · #3 03-10-2005, 06:16 PM

I think it would depend on your read of the better and caller. If they are pretty loose or poor players (which I think most are at that game at Ceasars) I think you have to raise. He could very easily be betting three jacks. The caller is likely chasing a draw. Even if you don't have the best hand, you do still have two outs to beat a higher flush or boat. I like raising, but a call would not be terrible.

mr pink · #4 03-10-2005, 06:20 PM

i would raise here, you can't give UTG credit for the full house yet. with the caller in between padding the pot, it adds some insurance just incase you're up against the boat. besides, the caller in between is probably hanging around with some high [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] that is waiting to see the river, might as well make him pay to see it. i'd be concerned if he 3-bets it but you still have 2 outs to the nuts and plenty of hand to showdown anyway.

vhuntd · #5 03-10-2005, 06:21 PM

UTG has a wide range of starting hand selections that doesn't include J2, but he would play JT from any position. At the worst he has a jack, and i'm almost one hunder percent certain that he would bet that board with trip jacks. The other caller is a bad loose passive player who will not raise preflop unless he has AA, KK, or QQ. I think that he either has a T or a gutshot straigth draw AQ, AK (i've played with him before and he always limps with AQ and AK).