Rookie of the Year: John Gale

John Gale's play on the WPT was horrible.

Seems to be good all around, except...

He likes to hug a lot. Were I to find myself all-in against him in a tournament, I would decline the big sweaty man-grab, thanks.

I can picture gale chasing my scrawny 6'4" 180lb ass around the table... "COME BACK HERE AND HUG OLD BOY THIS IS EMOTIONAL.. IM ALL EMOTIONAL OVER HERE"

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Who had the better year? Before you answer:

Player 1 entered 46 events that cost $290,000 just in entry fees

Player 2 entered 1 event that cost $5,000

Now let's factor in travel and hotel and--

--you see where this would go.


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Yes, however.. there must be some kind of floor.. Surely one tournament win is not enough to qualify you for this award. The winner of the Main Event would just win every year.

There must be some kind of pre-determined circuit of respectable events to include for calcuation, and then the players should have to play in at least X tournaments...

He's been nominated for European Rookie of the Year, alongside:

Patrik Antonius (Finland)
Roland de Wolfe (England)
Peter Gunnarson (Sweden)
Noah Boeken (Holland)

(http://www.pokerineurope.com/pokerawards/index.php)

[iMsoLucky0]

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shaniac,

Re: the average full-time touring pro (ignore backing) these days, a few questions:

1) How many events do they go to? One major a month? More, less?

2) How many tourneys will they generally play per event?

3) What is the average yearly outlay in tourney buyins and travel expenses?

4) What percentage of the tourney pros play primarily tournies and don't really play cash games much?

I am referring specifically to the guys who aren't the superstar players, but the name players who seem to be at most tourneys. So, not the Negreanu/Ivey/Brunson types and not the wannabes like that Schleger guy, but the ones in the middle.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to spend $15-25k/month on buyins and expenses these days.

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I think this varies so much from player to player that there is no answer for these questions. Personally, I've been playing about 1 major event a month with 2 or 3 smaller events before. I also don't play cash games. I'm not sure if that's standard or not, but there are definitely people that play way more and way less than that.

I dont really think there is an "average" player for these.

[AJo Go All In]

not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but stars probably puts up the buyins for most of these tournaments

[Greg (FossilMan)]

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not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but stars probably puts up the buyins for most of these tournaments

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John doesn't play for PS anymore. Not my decision, and I didn't think that their decision to let him go was a good one, but in any event, the post to which I reply is mistaken.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

[shaniac]

That didn't last too long, did it?

What's the current roster for Team Pokerstars, Greg?

[Greg (FossilMan)]

The decision to cut John was made by the Marketing people in Europe. A nice bunch, but very young, and I think they believed that they needed somebody more young and hip rather than somebody who is 50ish, no matter how nice of a guy he is. But that's just a guess.

The big 3 are Joe Hachem, Chris Moneymaker, and myself. We also Tom McEvoy, Isabelle Mercier, Evelyn Ng, Wil Wheaton, and Luca Pagano. I did not see Luca on the website, but he was still on the team last I heard.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

[Jonathan]

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The decision to cut John was made by the Marketing people in Europe. A nice bunch, but very young, and I think they believed that they needed somebody more young and hip rather than somebody who is 50ish, no matter how nice of a guy he is. But that's just a guess.

The big 3 are Joe Hachem, Chris Moneymaker, and myself. We also Tom McEvoy, Isabelle Mercier, Evelyn Ng, Wil Wheaton, and Luca Pagano. I did not see Luca on the website, but he was still on the team last I heard.

Later, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

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I'm really sorry to hear that John was dropped and agree
with you that PokerStars made a mistake in this case. John
sat next to me for several hours at one of the tables in
Monte Carlo and I grew to like him and appreciate his
dry humour. That Stars has dropped him but continues keep
younger, more photogenic players who don't have anywhere
near John's level of poker achievements is not good for
Stars or for poker.

What a shame!

Suerte,
Jonathan