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12-14-2005, 11:26 PM
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questionable river play?? - line check
party 100NL, 6 max 6 handed
no reads. UTG calls, folded to button (villain, $85) who makes it $5, SB folds, i (bb, i cover) call w/ 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], UTG calls. flop ~$15 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] i bet $10, button is only caller turn ~$35 T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] i bet $25, button calls river $~85 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] i push... comments? 
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#2
12-15-2005, 01:01 AM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
Yep, questionable. Actually it sucks. If want to put all your money in at least check and give a worse hand a chance to bluff.
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#3
12-15-2005, 01:07 AM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
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Yep, questionable. Actually it sucks. If want to put all your money in at least check and give a worse hand a chance to bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Huh? This is a $45 bet into a $85 pot. Checking the river would be bad. NH OP.
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#4
12-15-2005, 01:11 AM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
Bah you are right AJ with those stacks left this is not as bad as I thought. I though villian had 60 left. If 60 left I check to the 1 liner, but with 45 he might call with AK.
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#5
12-15-2005, 09:20 AM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
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Bah you are right AJ with those stacks left this is not as bad as I thought. I though villian had 60 left. If 60 left I check to the 1 liner, but with 45 he might call with AK. [/ QUOTE ] interesting that you don't like it... the line seems best to me. villain raises PF and calls 2 near PSB along the way. given that, i think its easy to put him on AQ/AK. i don't see whats so bad about a push even if villain did have more than $45 left... thoughts?
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#6
12-15-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
He raised preflop don't worry he is unlikely to have a nine! Played fine, he probably has a random ace, may or may not have paired his kicker, hope he called the river.
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#7
12-15-2005, 11:07 AM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
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Bah you are right AJ with those stacks left this is not as bad as I thought. I though villian had 60 left. If 60 left I check to the 1 liner, but with 45 he might call with AK. [/ QUOTE ] pssh.. even if the hero had more than 45 left i'd bet close to the pot. how much would you be kicking yourself in the ass if they checked behind??
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#9
12-15-2005, 01:19 PM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
Well guys this is what I think.
A pre flop raise from the button means not much anymore. He could have a variety of hands without a read, including a 9. It could also mean AA 10-10 or whatever. But... IMO AK should fold to a 60$ bet on the river. Between the 1 liner to the strait and the bet sizes it is pretty clear AK is no good. Which leads me to ask what hands are gonna call a 60$ bet on the river that you can beat? I think making a value bet that AK can still call is ok, I also think checking and leting the other guy bluff or whatever is ok, but with 60$ left if you move in the only hand that should call you is one that beats you. If you cant get away from AK in this spot you are a poor player IMO. Really the only hand that can justify calling that bet on the river that the OP beats is A-10. With 45 left though and the pot size a number of hands might call. These flat calls are kind of scary as well. AK-Q-10 re-raises flop? I can only speak for myself but when I flat call a flop, turn, like that means either I am drawing or have a monster.
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#10
12-15-2005, 02:04 PM
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Re: questionable river play?? - line check
Edit.. by "you" I dont mean anyone in particular, just in general.
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