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Old 12-06-2005, 09:45 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

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Edit: I assume the fourth diamond has something to do with it, but I don't see what.

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this guy won't bet a lot of hands he will call with.

he will only bet AK[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] when we check basically. betting gets value from all his other hands.
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Old 12-06-2005, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

This flop is a perfect spot for a checkraise.

I agree with Brad that you can't check/call this river.
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

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Edit: I assume the fourth diamond has something to do with it, but I don't see what.

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Remember a guy named Clarkmeister?
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

If he only bets AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] you are basically saying we should bet/fold here since if he raise us, we are beat?
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Old 12-07-2005, 03:27 AM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

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If he only bets AK [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] you are basically saying we should bet/fold here since if he raise us, we are beat?

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nah, the value we get off of him calling all the times we have him beaten more than make up the time we lose this pot. plus there's still the chance he puts in a raise with AA here anyway.

so no, i would not be folding to the raise.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:01 AM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

I think the river here is between bet/call and bet/raise, because while this Jd certainly isn't a great card, hero is still ahead of AA, 99 and auto-raise tilt maniac hands.

While he does seem to be in auto-raise mode with AA, he is raising on the 4-flush board. I think he is going to call without a diamond and raise with the K, so I think the bet/call line is the best.

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Old 12-07-2005, 07:03 AM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

Note on Villian: overplays hands.

EDIT to add: Whatever the result of this hand, just be glad that you made money from him at some point in the hand.

I bet bet/3bet the J and K. Any other diamond and I bet/call.
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Old 12-07-2005, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

Grunch:

Best guesses are AA, AoKd, possibly Kxd or AKo. I don't really put much into the last 2 as a suited K might not cause the pf raise, and AKo doesn't seem logical post flop.

I can't see another line of play here. Hope it held up [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: QTs flops flush.

Well, it didn't. Villain showed K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and MHING.

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I still think I played this correctly, but 3-betting the river would have probably been beter than bet/calling.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:24 PM
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Meh, his only mistake to me was the silly preflop raise. If I buddy listed everyone who played one street wrong it'd be a very long list [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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