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Old 12-04-2005, 05:02 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

PartyPoker - NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Tournament | Level: 2 - 9 players (Converter: PGC)

MP2 is N/A

Chip Counts:
Button: 1030 Chips
<font color="red">Hero: 1240 Chips</font>
BB: 865 Chips
UTG: 1015 Chips
UTG+1: 960 Chips
MP1: 1985 Chips
MP2: 1165 Chips
MP3: 940 Chips
CO: 800 Chips

Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Blinds are 15/30

PreFlop
<font color="blue">UTG folds</font>, <font color="blue">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="blue">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP2 RAISES ($150)</font>, <font color="blue">MP3 folds</font>, <font color="blue">CO folds</font>, <font color="blue">Button folds</font>
<font color="red">Hero RAISES ($345)</font>, <font color="blue">BB folds</font>, <font color="green">MP2 Calls</font>

(2 players) FLOP: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ( Pot Size: 750 Chips )
<font color="red">Hero ?</font>
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:05 PM
rbear rbear is offline
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

I hate this spot. I most likely push, but I don't like it. Since laggy, I don't put villian on AK, maybe worse ace or lower pocket pair. Hopefully my push gets him to fold worse ace. (Chances he hit his flush are negligable enough to disregard). Hopefully he's not donkish enough to chase his 4 to a flush either.
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

I think in retrospect I should've pushed preflop, perhaps. Ugh, I dunno.
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

No way do I push preflop. A laggy player will call this reraise with so many hands your ahead of. The chips you gain by villians call here + more on further streets are far greater than the chips you lose when villian hits, imo.
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

bump, clear push on this flop to others??
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Old 12-04-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

bump
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:11 PM
adanthar adanthar is offline
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

I feel fine with either pushing or check/folding here, although the LAGgier he is the easier the push.

A lot depends on his 5x raising range...lots of LAGs will do stuff like minraise trash but big raise their 'real hands' (which still suck but have a lot of aces in the range.) Vs. one of those guys I am fine check/folding, or check/pushing to a weak bet. It depends on what he does, really.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

I probably did the worst thing I could in the hand, bet the pot or so, leaving myself 400 behind. He pushed and I kinda had to call. I didn't really have many reads on him sadly, other than he was a fish and liked pretty cards, it was only level 2.
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

Being that there are a lot of aces in that range, do you think pushing (representing AK) is an effective way of getting villian off weaker ace?
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Old 12-04-2005, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: $109 Level 2, LAG-gy opponent, OOP and horrible flop (KK)

KK is about 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 to win if called. You're not likely to get a better edge than this later on. The reason not to raise is that KK is too good a hand to just pick up a small amount of chips. If you knew you'd be call by one opponent, you'd raise in a heart beat.
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