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Old 11-22-2005, 06:45 AM
flawless_victory flawless_victory is offline
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Default Re: KQ 30 HAND. I PLAY BAD.

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i think a 5 or a flush are most likely, then a bluff.


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on this.
i agree that his flop call of 2 cold OOP looks like a FD or trips, but remember
-he is a horrible fish and could have anything.
-a heart draw almost always threebets the flop in this game.

im not saying u completely abandon handreading, but it is semi hopeless on the cheap streets w/ a guy like this. he could withstand multiple bets w/ any2 on the cheap streets.
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Old 11-22-2005, 06:53 AM
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I am probably stupid (and I dont play 30) but could someone explain to me why the river call is so great? Because I would probably just go ahead and raise here.
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:15 AM
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Default Re: KQ 30 HAND. I PLAY BAD.

sb probly folds to a raise and button is not calling 2 cold unless you chop. an overcall is the most +ev move.
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: KQ 30 HAND. I PLAY BAD.

Probably since everybody seems to agree here. I thought the 30/60 was even more aggressive meaning SB would not necessarily believe a river raise but call instead getting 13-1 with a 5 or even less. Of course we might chop with the case K or lose to 55 but that doesnt seem hugely likely... I would be more inclined to go for the overcall if our hand was not quite as good.
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: KQ 30 HAND. I PLAY BAD.

FWIW we also lose to K8. Correct me if i'm wrong but I don't think the quality of our hand is the issue here. It is the quality of what our opponents might have. We probably aren't getting any more bets in here by raising. A flush won't call two but might overcall, a lone A might overcall. AA might overcall. But none of those hands are calling a bet and a raise. Also the initial bettor might not even be likely to call a raise here unless he is splitting the pot with you or beating you.
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Old 11-24-2005, 02:47 AM
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obviously, i assumed button had an A, and was a near lock to overcall... i also thought there was a chance sb had a complete bluff.

well button folded (22-44, i guess). sb showed 4d5d, and MHWG.
made me sick to suck out that bad and win so little, if i raise the river im getting at least 2 and quite possibly 4 bets.
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