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Old 11-09-2005, 03:24 PM
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Default More fun w/middle pair

LAG button (40/20 over 50 hands) open limps, I complete in the sb w/K9s. Taggy bb checks.

Flop AK5 rainbow

I check bb checks button bets I call bb folds

Turn 8

I check button checks

River 6

I check call

How'd I do? I'm thinking I shoulda bet the river and folded to a raise
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:28 PM
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Default Re: More fun w/middle pair

i'd be raising this preflop if bb can fold. were you trying to checkraise the turn? as it played out, i don't think bet/folding the river would be bad
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:28 PM
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Too passive. The 40/20 is playing his button with trash. There's no reason to put him on a monster just b/c of his button limp. So...

- bet the flop, or with the line you took, c/r the flop

- bet the turn

- bet the river

You're basically going to showdown if HU against the monkey.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:29 PM
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I agree, bet the river.

Is there some reason you don't bet this flop, though? Making second or third button in the SB in a small pot is one of the hardest spots for me so far in 6-max, so an explanation of why you check called would be great.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: More fun w/middle pair

I don't bet the flop b/c I don't want to get raised. Button is bad but also aggressive bad so he could be raising w/an A as well as another random hand like a worse K or PP. I didn't want to deal w/the decision of calling a raise and then check folding or check calling the turn.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: More fun w/middle pair

I'm not putting button on a monster but an A is certainly within his realm of hands, as is a worse K and a PP. By check calling the flop and turn, I can get him to bluff when I'm ahead and get to showdown cheap when I'm behind
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:36 PM
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Default Re: More fun w/middle pair

I was actually just planning on check calling the turn. A raise pf is interesting but I hate playing these hands OOP when I miss the flop. On top of that, BB is likely to call given that he's getting 4:1 and I don't know how much of an equity edge I have to push.
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Old 11-09-2005, 03:43 PM
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I'm not putting button on a monster but an A is certainly within his realm of hands, as is a worse K and a PP.

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Not from a 40/20 player. More often than not you're going to see J7s or 45s or something.
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:02 PM
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Not from a 40/20 player. More often than not you're going to see J7s or 45s or something.

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If thats the case, I'd rather keep him bluffing than blow him out of the hand
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Old 11-09-2005, 04:20 PM
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Default Re: More fun w/middle pair

This doesn't sound like a guy who's going to be blown out of the hand; it sounds more like someone who'd call a c/r and keep calling with bottom pair. I think you need to bet or raise somewhere.
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