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Old 09-01-2005, 01:27 PM
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Default Level 1 QQ hand

MP2 seems donkish. Don't tell me to raise more preflop. I am happy with the amount I am raising and I won't change that aspect of my game. It is working very well for me.

Now for the hand. I feel I am missing a lot of chips by just calling him down. I know I am ahead so often that I should raise. Question is on what street and how much. A big reason is of course because I am doing a horrible job preventing K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] from drawing very cheaply.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

MP3 (t740)
Hero (t775)
Button (t800)
SB (t35)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t1410)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t1040)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t15, MP3 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t50, MP3 folds.

Flop: (t182.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t15</font>, Hero calls t15.

Turn: (t212.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t15</font>, Hero calls t15.

River: (t242.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t15</font>, Hero calls t15.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Level 1 QQ hand

I think you're being very results oriented here. Unless you have a better read on villain, you have no way to know if you have the best hand, the best draw, both, or neither. He's allowing you to take a cheap showdown with a suspect hand, and I think you should take it unless you hit a Q or the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: Level 1 QQ hand

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I think you're being very results oriented here. Unless you have a better read on villain, you have no way to know if you have the best hand, the best draw, both, or neither. He's allowing you to take a cheap showdown with a suspect hand, and I think you should take it unless you hit a Q or the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

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I don't think I am. I have been in similar situations tonnes of times and judging by those, QQ is good very often when villain bets this way.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:36 PM
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Okay, you know better than I.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Level 1 QQ hand

What do you do if he bets 125 instead of 15 on the flop?
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: Level 1 QQ hand

I'd probably get away from the hand. Mostly because I would know it would take most of my chips to make showdown and he seemed donkish enough to call a flop re-raise all-in with A2 and he might actually have a flush and I would be drawing pretty slim.

Btw. I put him on a T or a 2 when he bets the way he is. He may or may not have a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], but it is far from certain. I have seen this situation time and time again and it is almost always middle or bottom pair they are betting with.
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Old 09-01-2005, 01:43 PM
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Default Re: Level 1 QQ hand

I personally treat t15 bets like a check, and if someone checks to me on that flop, I bet t100.

I won't tell you to raise more preflop, but I'd like to.
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