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Old 08-29-2005, 12:27 AM
MikeNaked MikeNaked is offline
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Default Value raise or spew?

New to the table but Villain has been been pretty tight so far.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>

Final Pot: 17.50 BB
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

Good value raise. He's got 2pr here a lot more often than a set and T9s occasionally as well.

Rob
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

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value raise

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I like it. You'll see KQ, KJ, or QJ a lot.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

KQ 9
KJ 9
QJ 9

ahead of 27 combos

K7 6
Q7 6
J7 6
KK 6 - discount to 2 (preflop action)
QQ 6 - discount to 2 (preflop action)
JJ 6 - discount to 3 (preflop action)

behind 25

I say spew
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:38 AM
jba jba is offline
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

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Good value raise. He's got 2pr here a lot more often than a set and T9s occasionally as well.

Rob

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i didn't see T9, I don't think it even needs to be suited. i think it's close see my post maybe you think the big pairs are less likely, and I can buy that.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

Definitly a value raise.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

Don't forget T9 in there too.

Some people also tend to go crazy on perceived blindsteals with weaker hands than normal, so he doesn't necessarily need to always have 2-pair or better.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:40 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

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KQ 9
KJ 9
QJ 9

ahead of 27 combos

K7 6
Q7 6
J7 6
KK 6 - discount to 2 (preflop action)
QQ 6 - discount to 2 (preflop action)
JJ 6 - discount to 3 (preflop action)

behind 25

I say spew

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I say vagina
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Value raise or spew?

Given a base read of "probably tightish" I would discount all of the behind combos more, probably around 10-15 total. I think he is folding the trash a lot, and 3 betting the others a lot more. Throw in the possibility he has a lower straight (you left out T9s in the ahead of section, which you should probably include if you include Q7s and J7s) and it is a good value raise/pay-off 3.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:42 AM
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I say vagina

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haha I know
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