A different downswing question

Doc7 · #1 08-12-2005, 09:55 PM

After 3k hands of negative BB/100, is there anything tell-tale that I can check to see if this is a downswing or simply bad play? I stuck my worst money loss session in that PokerGrader website and all the results had big red "BAD LUCK" next to them, but I don't know how reputable that website is around here...

is there such a thing as "You spent 22.50 on SSHE so now here's a 22.50 drop in bankroll"? (it's not quite that bad, at .05/.10 it's more like 10 dollars...still depressing, but I'm not sure that luck is entirely/mostly to blame)

jaxUp · #2 08-12-2005, 09:57 PM

review hands, post hands, respond to posts, study up. If you have shown that you have a good knowledge of the game, and you believe that you are still playing correctly after doing all of the above, then It's pretty safe to say that it's just a rin of bad luck

Doc7 · #3 08-12-2005, 10:00 PM

all the hands that I seem to be losing the massive amounts of money on are "Bad beat" posts...AQ hits trip Qs and loses to a Q7s which limp/called a raise Preflop, stuff like that. AKo, hit an Ace on flop and another on turn, but a guy with a set of 7s had me beat the whole time...that's 8BBs right there..

jaxUp · #4 08-12-2005, 10:02 PM

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all the hands that I seem to be losing the massive amounts of money on are "Bad beat" posts...AQ hits trip Qs and loses to a Q7s which limp/called a raise Preflop, stuff like that. AKo, hit an Ace on flop and another on turn, but a guy with a set of 7s had me beat the whole time...that's 8BBs right there..

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Then it would appear that you already know it's not poor play (at least for the most part). Just make sure you stay on top of your game and don't fret about crap like that.

hemstock · #5 08-12-2005, 10:05 PM

I feel you [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Go to PT and filter the hands of your downswing and check the Went to Showdown and Won at Showdown % s. I know it can't tell the truth because you might still have a 60% win percentage but winning just the the 3BB pots while losing all the massive ones. It could be an indication that you are getting rivered all the time though.

Aaron W. · #6 08-12-2005, 11:05 PM

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I stuck my worst money loss session in that PokerGrader website and all the results had big red "BAD LUCK" next to them, but I don't know how reputable that website is around here...

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A better thing to do is to review how you played your hands. Are you down because of a few massive pots that didn't go your way, or are there lots of little pots which are contributing to a slow decline?

Ultimately, the way to tell if you have bad luck or bad play is to know what good play is, and see if your play matches it.

Catt · #7 08-13-2005, 01:37 AM

FWIW, when I am being a good player (as opposed to playing well) I review all my sessions. I find lots of errors during my downswings and lots of errors during my upswings. Try and get into the habit of reviewing your play regularly - it doesn't take too long - you'll be surprised how often you find mistakes, no matter how the hand / session / sessions came out in terms of results. You'll learn a lot too.