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Old 07-12-2005, 12:02 PM
tigerite tigerite is offline
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Default Re: Huge drawing hand -- no idea how to play it.

How on earth did he know he only had 9/47 cards. You can't put someone on a set every time. Not even close.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:06 PM
45suited 45suited is offline
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Default Re: Huge drawing hand -- no idea how to play it.

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draws kill

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True, but there are draws and then there are DRAWS. This is a great draw and one that I'd be willing to C/R all-in with. I agree with ScubaChuck here... if you think there's a good chance to get a fold with a C/R all-in, that's what I'd do.

The only thing that would make me hesitant to do this is the relative shortstack of the preflop raiser, who might easily feel pot committed after a continuation bet.

But if I lead the flop, I like leading for less like Chuck says...
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:52 PM
rydazzle rydazzle is offline
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Default Re: Huge drawing hand -- no idea how to play it.

Yeah, look for the cheap card. I like a steal if you are heads-up or 2 opponents...4 total is too many I think. Plus, youve got bad position for a steal.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:57 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: Huge drawing hand -- no idea how to play it.

I have found myself being disappointed when everyone folds in hands like this. Then I have to smack myself on the head to remind me that I only had a draw. Me thinks I am mentally overrating draws.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

UTG (t665)
UTG+1 (t730)
MP1 (t745)
MP2 (t805)
MP3 (t1610)
CO (t1205)
Button (t680)
Hero (t775)
BB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t57.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t100</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero pushes all-in</font>, BB folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t970
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Old 07-12-2005, 01:00 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: Huge drawing hand -- no idea how to play it.

I think there is a huge difference in these hands. Most glaring is the remaining stacks of your opponents, and the ~200 chips in the pot going to the flop.

That being said, you can't be too dissatisfied to just pick up 200 chips at this stage. If you build the pot too big, they aren't gonna fold (which matters when you don't hit).
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