TT - bubblicious

LuvDemNutz · #1 07-01-2005, 09:52 AM

Full Tilt $30+3 buy-in tourney ~360 entrants

Top 36 get paid, 44 are left when this hand comes up

Blinds are 250/500 with a 50 ante

Hero (~T6600) is UTG with TT and raises to T1250

UTG+1 pushes all in for ~T9300

Folds around to Hero - call or fold and why?

I don't rememeber the exact payout structure but 28-36 got ~$45, 1st got ~$2500

xLukex · #2 07-01-2005, 10:01 AM

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Full Tilt $30+3 buy-in tourney ~360 entrants

Top 36 get paid, 44 are left when this hand comes up

Blinds are 250/500 with a 50 ante

Hero (~T6600) is UTG with TT and raises to T1250

UTG+1 pushes all in for ~T9300

Folds around to Hero - call or fold and why?

I don't rememeber the exact payout structure but 28-36 got ~$45, 1st got ~$2500

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This is rough. You'll only have 10BB left if you fold, but UTG is certainly representing QQ-AA, AKs.

I would grit my teeth and fold.

MeanGreenTT · #3 07-01-2005, 10:04 AM

You put in almost 1/4 of your stack and the upcoming Blinds will whack another ~1k off the remaining, leaving you with about 8BBs if you fold here...I'm a little torn here but this may be you're best chance to make a run for the real money, otherwise you're looking to push with any decent upcoming hand, hoping to double up inside this round.

xLukex · #4 07-01-2005, 10:06 AM

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You put in almost 1/4 of your stack and the upcoming Blinds will whack another ~1k off the remaining, leaving you with about 8BBs if you fold here...I'm a little torn here but this may be you're best chance to make a run for the real money, otherwise you're looking to push with any decent upcoming hand, hoping to double up inside this round.

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Bah I forgot he was UTG.

I grit my teeth and call. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

TxDozerMan · #5 07-01-2005, 10:13 AM

The only hand that I am really afraid of here is JJ, because I think he tries to milk QQ-AA here with a smaller raise. JJ,99,AK,AQs seem much more likely with the push, IMHO. I call and go for the real money.

kuro · #6 07-01-2005, 10:32 AM

Save yourself the headache and just push preflop next time. Call.

nightlyraver · #7 07-01-2005, 10:58 AM

2 thoughts:

1) Why didn't you raise more? Most people raise 3xBB at this level. The weak-ish raise may be taken as a sign of weakness and cause someone to mess with you.

2) With this size stack, folding is not an option once you decide to raise. If you were planning on folding to a reraise, you should have limped or folded to begin with. I'm calling here much often than not since folding leaves you crippled. If you had 25xBB or more and villian had a big stack as well, then folding becomes more attractive.

The only time I'm folding in this spot is when villian is is a predictable player who will almost always smooth-call w/ a big ace and only push TT-QQ and maybe KK and AA. Those players appear, but not too often. Pay attention - without this read though, you must assume that he very well has AK or AQ, or something like 77-QQ.

LuvDemNutz · #8 07-01-2005, 10:59 AM

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Save yourself the headache and just push preflop next time. Call.

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I think open-pushing is bad -

the table was playing pretty tight - usually the first one to raise was scooping the pot.

I think an UTG open-raise is strong enough.

Besides, if there's a reraise and a re-reraise behind me I can muck and feel good about it.

LuvDemNutz · #9 07-01-2005, 11:05 AM

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2 thoughts:

1) Why didn't you raise more? Most people raise 3xBB at this level. The weak-ish raise may be taken as a sign of weakness and cause someone to mess with you.

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The table was playing very tight - people were opening for $1250 and taking the pot uncontested.

I suppose I could've bumped it to $1500 but I don't think it makes that much of a difference.

Also, the blinds may have just gone up (from 200/400 to 250/500 - I don't remember exactly).

You are right though - I would normally come in for at least 3XBB if I am going to come in at all - perhaps a small mistake on my part.

HeroInBlack · #10 07-01-2005, 11:16 AM

Yucky, but I call. He probably would have gone to 3600 or something like that with AA or KK trying to get you to call. The all in suggests he really doesn't want a call but wouldn't feel too bad about it if he got one. I think you're on a coin-flip here 90% of the time, and facing an overpair the other 10%, and the pot is paying you pretty well.