Nobel Committee snubs bush?

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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Lech Walesa says it was a major factor in bringing down communism since they were on the verge of giving up, but when they got the price they got renewed energy to fight.

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My bad folks, apparently the Nobel committee ended communism. The inflated self-importance of left-leaning intellectuals knows no bounds.

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I did not claim so, smartass. I just quoted him. He was a driving force and he gives a lot of credit for that to the Nobel Price.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

To enlighten further on how this process is going on:

The Norwegian parliament appoints the committee, and thus it would be possible for the parliament to politize it. It also politized in the way that there is a unwritten agreement between the major parties that the committee should represent the whole Norwegian political spectrum (this means it reflects the sentiment in the Norwegian population and not of the worldwide population) regardless of which party controls the Parliament. It is also an unwritten agreement that it should not consist of politically active members, thus typically former politicians are appointed. It is also an unwritten agreement that no parliamentary politicians should try to interfere in the decision process, other than nominating candidates.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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It has come to pass that whoever speaks the truth, shall be condemned as politically motivated and petty.

Why not just say that those in the Nobel Peace Price Committee are a bunch of commies and be done with any substantive argument.

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COMMITTEE MEMBERS
Ole Danbolt Mjøs (chairman) (born 1939), Professor dr. medicine. Member of the Committee since 2003. Chairman since 2003.
Berge Furre (deputy chairman) (born 1937), professor dr. theology, former member of parliament and leader of the socialist party. Member of the Committee since 2003, Deputy Chairman since 2003.
Sissel Marie Rønbeck (born 1950), Deputy Director, Directorate for Cultural Heritage (Riksantikvaren), former member of parliament and Cabinet Minister. Member of the Committee since 1994.
Inger-Marie Ytterhorn (born 1941), Senior political adviser to the Progress Party's parliamentary group, former member of parliament. Member of the Committee since 2000.
Kaci Kullmann Five (born 1951), former chairman of the Conservative Party, member of parliament and Cabinet Minister for Trade, Shipping and European Affairs. Member of the Committee since 2003.

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Mjos: I think he is right wing, but I am not sure.
Furre: Former commie actually [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img], he was put under surveillance during the cold war and was at one time suspected of spying for DDR.
Ronbeck: Moderate left wing
Ytterhorn: Extreme right wing
Five: Right wing, very conservative.

[Cyrus]

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Lech Walesa says it was a major factor in bringing down communism since they were on the verge of giving up, but when they got the price they got renewed energy to fight.

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My bad folks, apparently the Nobel committee ended communism. The inflated self-importance of left-leaning intellectuals knows no bounds.

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Yes, the Nobel Peace Prize and the resulting political and P.R. pressure upon the Soviets helped end communism in Poland. It was not an immediate result, of course (only foolish persons think like that) but it nudged things towards that direction. The Soviets' policy on the West was based on promoting peace - and, in that context, the Soviets could not dismiss the Nobel Peace Prize as irrelevant or "an imperialist tool".

By itself alone, the Solidarity movement did not bring down communism in Poland but it contributed tremendously. As did the other democratic movements in Eastern Europe, along with the stance of lone and courageous individuals. (Such as physicist Andrei Zakharov, who was also awarded the Price.)

To ridicule those episodes in History only shows closed-mindedness and profound ignorance of History's workings.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

Just to put a quote too:

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Lech Walesa (1983 laureate)
"The prize saved my life. Without it, I don't know if I would have survived or would have had the career I've enjoyed."


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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] but;

gwb presidential medals are still available from u.s. mint

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[lehighguy]

So let me understand this. North Korea goes back on its agreements, enriches uranium, builds half a dozen nuclear weapons, and we see this as a success story for the IAEA.

How about Iran. They are just going to go on doing what they are doing and one day go nuclear. The IAEA hasn't done anything substantial.

As an organization it has accomplished none of its objectives. We are they getting an award?

[Arnfinn Madsen]

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As an organization it has accomplished none of its objectives. We are they getting an award?

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It is preemptive [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].