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#41
09-30-2005, 07:03 PM
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Re: Hand I played terribly
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Man - trying to read this UTG nimrod is driving me nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I think his hand is more important than my read on MP2, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what he has. 
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#42
09-30-2005, 07:05 PM
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Re: Hand I played terribly
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[ QUOTE ] Man - trying to read this UTG nimrod is driving me nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I think his hand is more important than my read on MP2, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what he has. [/ QUOTE ] any 7, any 6, any 5, any 8, any 4, any flush draw, any gutshot. sound good for a range from an unknown?
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#43
09-30-2005, 07:11 PM
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Re: Hand I played terribly
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Man - trying to read this UTG nimrod is driving me nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I think his hand is more important than my read on MP2, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what he has. [/ QUOTE ] any 7, any 6, any 5, any 8, any 4, any flush draw, any gutshot. sound good for a range from an unknown? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, this is along the lines that I was thinking. I think a lot of posters give him too much credit. As to your other post where you mentioned raising the turn instead, I really don't think an overpair folds the turn on that board when I raise. I think the only chance I have of folding out a better hand is on the river.
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#44
09-30-2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: Hand I played terribly
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Man - trying to read this UTG nimrod is driving me nuts. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I think his hand is more important than my read on MP2, and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what he has. [/ QUOTE ] any 7, any 6, any 5, any 8, any 4, any flush draw, any gutshot. sound good for a range from an unknown? [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, this is along the lines that I was thinking. I think a lot of posters give him too much credit. As to your other post where you mentioned raising the turn instead, I really don't think an overpair folds the turn on that board when I raise. I think the only chance I have of folding out a better hand is on the river. [/ QUOTE ] my biggest worry by far is that a scare card (like a J or something) will hit and UTG will stop betting. then im screwed--but if you don't think you can fold an overpair on the turn theres no point in raising IMO. just call and hope to hit a straight or a FH or that UTG bets again.
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#45
09-30-2005, 07:27 PM
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Re: Hand I played terribly
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I just skimmed the entire thread and nobody at least mentioned a flop checkraise [/ QUOTE ] yah i was thinking the exact same thing myself. i checkraise this flop. i dont donkbet it. by donkbetting, you will only be raised by a worse hand which does not protect your hand. all this does is drive chasers out when you have alot of value in your OESD. let the preflop raiser bet the flop for you and value checkraise the potential best hand but more importantly your excellent draw.
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#46
09-30-2005, 07:28 PM
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Re: Hand I played terribly
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I really don't think an overpair folds the turn on that board when I raise. I think the only chance I have of folding out a better hand is on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Man, I hate to keep beating this drum. But why do you think he'll fold to a river raise but not a turn raise? What changed?
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