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Old 12-08-2005, 07:54 PM
shaniac shaniac is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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Check/folding...if you're gonna do that please mail me the money, I can use it better than you.

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Pretty sure you were the only one who read the hand and thought I would consider a check-fold:-)
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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Check/folding...if you're gonna do that please mail me the money, I can use it better than you.

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Good, I like the discussion brewing here. I'm curious why you think this. What do you think he puts you on in this situation?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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Hand 2:

.....Chino limps, Patty limps...but I see Ah4h and limp too.

Checked to Chino who bets 400, Patty calls 400, I make it 1200 .....

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Not that it most likely matters much but the betting order has me 'fused [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] or are other players involved, the blinds?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

Not you, I know you wouldn't [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

He puts you on, umm...two cards that tilt-raised and then c-bet a low flop?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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Check/folding...if you're gonna do that please mail me the money, I can use it better than you.

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Good, I like the discussion brewing here. I'm curious why you think this. What do you think he puts you on in this situation?

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a tilty reraise followed by a c-bet on a ragged board..

99+, AJs+ ?
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:18 PM
shaniac shaniac is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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Not that it most likely matters much but the betting order has me 'fused or are other players involved, the blinds?

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Yes the blinds were implicity participating in this hand.

As for what someone else mentioned somewhere, that Ted has a huge range. I don't think that's really true.

As for what he puts me on? I think he's got to decide whether I'm actually tilting/bluffing or I have the hand I'm representing.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:24 PM
locutus2002 locutus2002 is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

Hand 1:
I think Ted has two spades like KQ [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He probably figures you for JJ-AA to lead the flop after such a big PF raise. I'd bet the turn for about T2000. If he knows where you are at, he must have a flush draw. I'd be surprised if you got any action by checking it even if he had a hand like QQ.

T2000 gives him implied odds of 6:1 to see the river (about right).
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:30 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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Hand 1.
I'm checking the turn, with the plan of calling a push or pushing the river or check-calling the river depending on the card. I don't think pushing there can be wrong either. With less than the pot in your stack i cant see getting away from this.

Hand 2
Stick it in there, way to often patti has a draw, and it sure seems to me like Chino has AK/AQ.

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Old 12-08-2005, 08:31 PM
Jason Strasser Jason Strasser is offline
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

Hand 1: i mean, what can you do? get ur chips in there. I would hesitate and go all in (similar to your KJ hand in wsop).

Hand 2: You cant get away here, go broke as well.

Both seem like spots where your money obviously has to go in.
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Old 12-08-2005, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Bellagio 5K, Two Hands

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a tilty reraise followed by a c-bet on a ragged board..

99+, AJs+ ?


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He puts you on, umm...two cards that tilt-raised and then c-bet a low flop?

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Possibly, but like I said, the key element is if he believes you are on tilt here. In a vacuum, Shane totally played this hand like a big pair/AK. But then again, I could just be scared of the monster under the bed.
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