Yeah, I flopped trips!

[Nottom]

Standard boring blind hand.

Party 100+9

Level 1, Me and Villian are both around our starting stacks.

Folded to SB who completes, I check with K4o in the BB.

Flop is 6s, Ks, Kd

He checks, I bet 40 and he calls.

Turn is the Qc

He checks, I bet 80 and he checkraises to 200. I call

River is the 8d and he pushes. Hero thinks a bit and calls.


OK, first I don't think there is anything particularly interesting about this hand other than it illustrated how much I hate flopping trips with a crappy kicker.

If he had bet something like 400 on the river, I would have hated having to call. If he check-raises me all-in on the river I feel even worse about calling. Is there any action that would make someone fold a hand like this?

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Turn is the Qc

He checks, I bet 80 and he checkraises to 200. I call

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Why call here if you're calling a low river card that won't counterfeit most better kings? Do you think he bluffs the river enough?

I agree, I would not call the push on the river. Too much too early with a vulnerable hand.

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I agree, I would not call the push on the river. Too much too early with a vulnerable hand.

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When he pushes the river I am pretty much positive he doesn't have a K. I don't know what he has, but I'm 95% sure I have the best hand. Most people just don't overbet the pot with trips or better here.

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I agree, I would not call the push on the river. Too much too early with a vulnerable hand.

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When he pushes the river I am pretty much positive he doesn't have a K. I don't know what he has, but I'm 95% sure I have the best hand. Most people just don't overbet the pot with trips or better here.

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Meh. Many good players will push the river here, knowing that an overbet is the best way to extract chips from Kx. If I had 66 or AK, I would nearly always push this river. If a good player like you will call with K4, then a call station will definitely call a push.

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I agree, I would not call the push on the river. Too much too early with a vulnerable hand.

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When he pushes the river I am pretty much positive he doesn't have a K. I don't know what he has, but I'm 95% sure I have the best hand. Most people just don't overbet the pot with trips or better here.

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Meh. Many good players will push the river here, knowing that an overbet is the best way to extract chips from Kx. If I had 66 or AK, I would nearly always push this river. If a good player like you will call with K4, then a call station will definitely call a push.

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I wouldn't becasue 95% of the players with a K would already have all their money in the middle. In order to make this push, I have to give my opponent credit for realizing that K4 isn't a very good hand here but will begrudgingly still call the bet.

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i think thats a really really far off statement that u think 95% of the time with this line the player doesnt have a K.

[curtains]

People are stupid idiots on partypoker. I would bet the flop, Id bet the turn, and I'd call the checkraise and then call the river. I'd be unhappy about calling the river but I'd ask myself "would some random partypoker idiot play a king like this", and the answer would usually be "no".

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People are stupid idiots on partypoker. I would bet the flop, Id bet the turn, and I'd call the checkraise and then call the river. I'd be unhappy about calling the river but I'd ask myself "would some random partypoker idiot play a king like this", and the answer would usually be "no".

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I definitely agree with Curtains on this one, and I'm really surprised by those advocating fold and/or check the turn. Really? Blind-on-blind and you're worried about being up against the case King? I'll happily get all my chips to the middle here on any street and see how it works out.

I love the way you played the hand too. You get that flop checked to you and you overbet the pot (slightly). Opponent calls. There's no way he's giving you credit for having the K. Then he check-raises you on the turn, possibly holding a Q, but I figure mainly just trying to take you off the hand by representing the K himself. Your smooth-call is great because it is super weak and probably registers to him as "I got caught trying to buy this pot, but I'm too poor of a player to fold when I get check-raised." It almost certainly induced his push on the river, which you happily call. If he really had a K, he would have bet less on the river in an attempt to value bet his hand (and get called)/induce you to come over the top with a bluff. He would have been scared to death you would fold to an all-in in level #1 and we would have gotten no further value for his monster. I agree with Curtains - I just don't see the Party crowd playing that way with a superior K.

--Zen

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Turn is the Qc

He checks, I bet 80 and he checkraises to 200. I call

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Why call here if you're calling a low river card that won't counterfeit most better kings? Do you think he bluffs the river enough?

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I just want to point out, that when I say this, I'm leaning much more towards pushing than folding. Stupidly aggressive? With 1k chips, probably. In an 800 chip game, I don't think it's close.