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Old 12-23-2005, 01:09 AM
XxGodJrxX XxGodJrxX is offline
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No. Government *REQUIRES* the use of (unprovoked) force.

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Why do governments require the use of force? My definition of government comes straight from Hobbes and Locke. Are you trying to say that a government is only a government when there is killing? How about if there was a government, but there was not taxation and no war; would that NOT be a government in your eyes? It seems to me that your bias against government is not letting you see what they actually are.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:16 AM
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Default Re: Civil War arguments

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No. Government *REQUIRES* the use of (unprovoked) force.

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Why do governments require the use of force? My definition of government comes straight from Hobbes and Locke. Are you trying to say that a government is only a government when there is killing? How about if there was a government, but there was not taxation and no war; would that NOT be a government in your eyes? It seems to me that your bias against government is not letting you see what they actually are.

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Without taxes, the only way the government can support itself is through slave labor, which is force.
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Old 12-23-2005, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Civil War arguments

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No. Government *REQUIRES* the use of (unprovoked) force.

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Why do governments require the use of force?

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How are you planning on paying for it? How are you planning on implementing any government decisions?

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My definition of government comes straight from Hobbes and Locke. Are you trying to say that a government is only a government when there is killing?

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Killing isn't the only form of force.
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