Runsfeld Clears Things Up

Don't forget that you need some intense combat every 20 years or so to ensure that future generations of your colonels, generals, and your joint chiefs of staff actually have some combat experience - because if future future generations must enter war, it would be utterly inconceivable for them to do so under military commanders with no combat experience.

[Myrtle]

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Don't forget that you need some intense combat every 20 years or so to ensure that future generations of your colonels, generals, and your joint chiefs of staff actually have some combat experience - because if future future generations must enter war, it would be utterly inconceivable for them to do so under military commanders with no combat experience.

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Do you envision yourself as one of those military commanders that 'needs the experience'?

Or, do you fall into the 'cannon fodder' category of most of the rest of us?

Do you have a resume in either of the above categories?

[tylerdurden]

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Here are some good reasons for war:

1. Bold Conquest i.e., land grab.
2. Long-term economic and political gain.
3. Influence and dominance in trade routes.
4. Protection of important resources and/or to gain resources for self-interest and economic power.
5. Revenge/punishment for past acts.
6. Your God is more powerful than the other guys God - thus a war should be successful with all the attendant gains involved.
7. To free your 'country' or 'clan' from tyranny.
8. To spread your religion with all the attendant economic and political gain that comes with it.

Any one or combination of the above is a good reason(s) to engage in war.

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You have an interesting definition of "good". I see only one of those that's clearly a "good" reason.

[Myrtle]

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Here are some good reasons for war:

1. Bold Conquest i.e., land grab.
2. Long-term economic and political gain.
3. Influence and dominance in trade routes.
4. Protection of important resources and/or to gain resources for self-interest and economic power.
5. Revenge/punishment for past acts.
6. Your God is more powerful than the other guys God - thus a war should be successful with all the attendant gains involved.
7. To free your 'country' or 'clan' from tyranny.
8. To spread your religion with all the attendant economic and political gain that comes with it.

Any one or combination of the above is a good reason(s) to engage in war.

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You have an interesting definition of "good". I see only one of those that's clearly a "good" reason.

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...........#7

[hetron]

Rumsfeld on the Iraq conflict
The enemy hears a big debate in the United States, and they have to wonder maybe all we have to do is wait and we'll win. We can't win militarily. They know that. The battle is here in the United States," he told "Fox News Sunday."

Does anyone see a problem with his thinking? He seems to think that the insurgents are sitting there with baiting breath waiting for US to decide when to leave Iraq, and then end up attacking. But of course, it is clear we aren't fighting a conventional enemy. These guys don't just want the Americans to leave Iraq (which is inevitable). They want to kill Americans. If you stay in Iraq they will just look for americans to kill. You might kill some of them, but others will take their place. Rumsfeld seems to think the insurgents want us to leave. I bet he doesn't even consider that some of them want us to stay, so they can have the chance to kill americans. But rumsfeld just thinks this is a conventional battle against conventional opponents. He just doesn't get it.

[cardcounter0]

Who could forget the classic "Where are WMDs?"

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We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.
Donald Rumsfeld
ABC Interview, March 30, 2003


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Uhhh, could you draw me a map there, Rummy?
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