1st hand - Flop decision with AK

[Isura]

No reads, so not sure what to make of the flop bet. Push, fold? I don't think I can call right?

#Game No : 2482754154
***** Hand History for Game 2482754154 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14570523 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Friday, August 05, 16:05:33 EDT 2005
Table Table 11649 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 5: chromedome3 ( $800 )
Seat 6: lsg9046 ( $800 )
Seat 7: rivergene ( $800 )
Seat 10: i_rake_u ( $800 )
Seat 3: greypower ( $800 )
Seat 8: HERO ( $800 )
Seat 9: Monstr_Huntr ( $800 )
Seat 4: larsesp ( $800 )
Seat 2: jhawkljw ( $800 )
Seat 1: twogolf ( $800 )
Trny:14570523 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd Ah ]
>You have options at Table 11690 Table!.
lsg9046 folds.
rivergene folds.
HERO raises [50].
Monstr_Huntr folds.
i_rake_u folds.
twogolf calls [50].
>You have options at Table 12698 Table!.
jhawkljw calls [50].
greypower folds.
larsesp folds.
chromedome3 calls [35].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Js, 4c ]
>You have options at Table 10987 Table!.
chromedome3 bets [225]
HERO ..

[BDarch]

I'd push, most people who flopped two pair or trips would make a smaller bet to try and encourage action.

[Meatmaw]

For those of you others who said 'push because he likely doesn't have 2pair or trips', why would you not raise and encourage him to call you at bad odds if you feel you have the best hand? Say, reraise to 400-500 then push on the turn (and risk giving him a correct call on the turn) rather than risk giving him a correct fold on the flop?

[lastchance]

Yupz, definitely have to retract my original thought. SCfugi, Rhittaker, and Adanthar are right. Definitely good to just call here, and get your chips in on the turn.

[SCfuji]

my thoughts come from those that shillx installed into my brain

[Shillx]

[ QUOTE ]
my thoughts come from those that shillx installed into my brain

[/ QUOTE ]

All the money is going in on this hand. It makes a lot more sense to make him do the betting since he won't throw away a better hand to a flop all-in, but he might get greedy and make a big pot commiting or all-in bet on 4th with Ax or Jx. By making a big reraise now all you do is give him a chance to get away from a worse hand. This is commonly how you should play these hands since the $$$ is going in no matter what if he has AQ or AJ, but by just calling, you get those extra chips those times he keeps bluffing at the pot (or betting with <= 3 outs).

Brad

Who the hell is Shillx anyway? I hear that he got a new Party handle [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

I'm all-in. He's trying to take down the pot. He clearly hasn't flopped trips.

I'm pushing here. If he has AJ, that just sucks. If he has A4, you still have six outs on the turn, then probably nine on the river, which is about 25% by my sketchy insta-math skills. I don't think a set would play it like this, and there aren't any good draws. POOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

[jgunnip]

I push but why such a small raise preflop?

[SCfuji]

is call, bet the turn if checked too, or call an all in on the turn that bad?