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Old 06-15-2005, 06:50 PM
Sinnister Sinnister is offline
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Whats up people, what is the opinion of everyone of not attempt blind steals against loose passives in 1/2. Same goes with defense how crucial do u all think it is defending against a fish who probably has a had when he raises?
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Old 06-15-2005, 07:39 PM
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Whats up people, what is the opinion of everyone of not attempt blind steals against loose passives in 1/2. Same goes with defense how crucial do u all think it is defending against a fish who probably has a had when he raises?

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Blind stealing is more effective against tighter players (duh...). Thus, I virtually never blind steal at .5/1 (21%), I do it more frequently at 1/2 (27%) if I have a read that he's tight, and I do it even more at 2/4 (31%). I also try to keep fairly high stealing standards, making it slightly easier to play postflop, when I try to steal against unknowns. Of course, if you're sitting at good tables, you shouldn't need to blindsteal at all [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 06-15-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Forgoing the blind steals

A huge part of my profit on crypto 1/2 is by blindstealing from MP3 to button. I steal as much as 40-45 % in general on button, almost 70 % against certain players. On party 1/2 I steal like 35 %. Stealing is key!
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:08 PM
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A huge part of my profit on crypto 1/2 is by blindstealing from MP3 to button. I steal as much as 40-45 % in general on button, almost 70 % against certain players. On party 1/2 I steal like 35 %. Stealing is key!

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Agreed. If you can steal the blinds once every orbit, you're making 7.5 BB/100 =O.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Forgoing the blind steals

against loose passives I don't consider it a blind steal.
It is a value raise.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:26 PM
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A huge part of my profit on crypto 1/2 is by blindstealing from MP3 to button. I steal as much as 40-45 % in general on button, almost 70 % against certain players. On party 1/2 I steal like 35 %. Stealing is key!

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Agreed. If you can steal the blinds once every orbit, you're making 7.5 BB/100 =O.

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also stealing pots after the flop. This where the bulk of your profits come from in tight games. Picking up pots that no one wants. They all add up nicely in the end. Sometimes I win 5 pots in a row just from betting the flop with nothing when I think everyone missed.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:29 PM
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The question is directed at loose players who will almost always call with overcards. I do my fair share of stealing at 2/4+ ive won enormous pots with nothing. I meant when sb and bb are both fish, should i waste my money.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:30 PM
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A huge part of my profit on crypto 1/2 is by blindstealing from MP3 to button. I steal as much as 40-45 % in general on button, almost 70 % against certain players. On party 1/2 I steal like 35 %. Stealing is key!

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Agreed. If you can steal the blinds once every orbit, you're making 7.5 BB/100 =O.

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you don't have to pay blinds, damn I wish i was as lucky

if you steal 1once a round, you cover all of your blinds and are breakeven
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:36 PM
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yea I wouldn't steal from loose passives. I meant if I raise on the button with hands like QTo and ace rag. It is because agaisnt loose blinds your hand could be best and you can outplay them after the flop with position. I don't think blind steal situations come up often in games with loose passives anyways. If it does than your relative positions to the tight and loose players are opposite of what they should be.
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Old 06-15-2005, 08:49 PM
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A huge part of my profit on crypto 1/2 is by blindstealing from MP3 to button. I steal as much as 40-45 % in general on button, almost 70 % against certain players. On party 1/2 I steal like 35 %. Stealing is key!

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Agreed. If you can steal the blinds once every orbit, you're making 7.5 BB/100 =O.

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you don't have to pay blinds, damn I wish i was as lucky

if you steal 1once a round, you cover all of your blinds and are breakeven

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=(. A flaw in my brilliant strategy.

Even then, though, thats pretty huge, considering how much you end up flooding away from the blinds over the long run.
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